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  • Happy Days
    Hall of Fame
    • May 2008
    • 10069

    Re: Trade Rumours 2024

    Jones might be 34 next year but you’d have to assume that he plays. Lobb looks unreal down back. Both these guys are better right now than Collins - would he even get a game in round 1 next year if he came across?

    I get the need for future proofing but Collins will be 31 next year himself, and I think if he plays his skill set limits him to being the main stopper. Doesn’t seem like a good fit.
    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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    • JanLorMill
      WOOF Member
      • Feb 2023
      • 1615

      Re: Trade Rumours 2024

      Originally posted by Sedat
      So is Steven May and Jacob Weitering. So is Tom Barrass really.

      I think Champion Data has Collins as the best negating key defender in the comp this season (McGovern is the best overall key defender).

      He is about a year older than Tom Barrass, so would still have a good 3-4 years at his peak. He doesn't have huge miles in the legs either, being a late starter.
      I agree but not sure he is a Bevo type

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      • jazzadogs
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Oct 2008
        • 5554

        Re: Trade Rumours 2024

        Originally posted by Happy Days
        Jones might be 34 next year but you’d have to assume that he plays. Lobb looks unreal down back. Both these guys are better right now than Collins - would he even get a game in round 1 next year if he came across?

        I get the need for future proofing but Collins will be 31 next year himself, and I think if he plays his skill set limits him to being the main stopper. Doesn’t seem like a good fit.
        Same argument could be made for Barrass, couldn't it?

        I really like Collins. His dad coaches Donvale who were on a 30 game winning streak earlier this season - a really good coach, and once I realised the connection I wasn't as surprised by Sam's dedication, attention to detail and consistency.

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14853

          Re: Trade Rumours 2024

          Originally posted by JanLorMill
          Not sure Bevo would want Collins. We had our chance getting when short of key backs. Speed is an issue. Very much a one position player.
          We chased him one year in the past
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10069

            Re: Trade Rumours 2024

            Originally posted by jazzadogs
            Same argument could be made for Barrass, couldn't it?

            I really like Collins. His dad coaches Donvale who were on a 30 game winning streak earlier this season - a really good coach, and once I realised the connection I wasn't as surprised by Sam's dedication, attention to detail and consistency.
            Barrass can do other stuff though - actually intercepts, has nice skills, and would be an immediate upgrade in the JOD/Buku spot. Collins is a blanket, which is great but we already have that and more.
            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 7701

              Re: Trade Rumours 2024

              Josh Battle also confirmed he will be signing with hawks.

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              • DOG GOD
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jul 2007
                • 6378

                Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                Josh Battle also confirmed he will be signing with hawks.
                Who’d wanna wear their hideous jumpers…I don’t get it.
                I will never see #16 the same!!

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18842

                  Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                  Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                  Josh Battle also confirmed he will be signing with hawks.

                  Shame they can't play this year he and Barrass
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 10968

                    Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                    Originally posted by DOG GOD
                    Who’d wanna wear their hideous jumpers…I don’t get it.
                    They are a team on the rise who are handing him a huge contract in terms of both dollars and length. St Kilda look to be going nowhere, what's not to get?

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                    • DOG GOD
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 6378

                      Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      They are a team on the rise who are handing him a huge contract in terms of both dollars and length. St Kilda look to be going nowhere, what's not to get?
                      It was a tongue in cheek comment regarding their jumper, not their list.
                      Things can turn fairly quickly…hawks are confident…a few big losses and that could change. I don’t think their list is a top 8 list, and I doubt anyone would’ve picked them to finish any higher than 12th this year. Me included.
                      I guess we shall see where both these teams are in 3-4 years time.
                      I will never see #16 the same!!

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                      • SquirrelGrip
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1486

                        Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                        Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                        Josh Battle also confirmed he will be signing with hawks.
                        How would you feel as a current Hawthorn defender in the lead-up to your first final with all these other players joining the club next year? Surely it's a distraction and would put more pressure on you?

                        I don't think you want confirmation of players coming or going until your season is over.
                        "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                        • comrade
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 17903

                          Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                          Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                          How would you feel as a current Hawthorn defender in the lead-up to your first final with all these other players joining the club next year? Surely it's a distraction and would put more pressure on you?

                          I don't think you want confirmation of players coming or going until your season is over.
                          I'm loving all this focus on incoming players and next year's prospects for Hawthorn. Sicily talking up the list for 2025.

                          Obviously they've got a ton of faith in Frost if they're actively trying to find replacements for him.
                          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                          • SquirrelGrip
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1486

                            Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            I'm loving all this focus on incoming players and next year's prospects for Hawthorn. Sicily talking up the list for 2025.

                            Obviously they've got a ton of faith in Frost if they're actively trying to find replacements for him.
                            Yes Hawks, more of it I say! Happy we are meanwhile focused on the game ahead.
                            "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                            • bulldogsthru&thru
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • May 2011
                              • 7701

                              Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                              Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                              How would you feel as a current Hawthorn defender in the lead-up to your first final with all these other players joining the club next year? Surely it's a distraction and would put more pressure on you?

                              I don't think you want confirmation of players coming or going until your season is over.
                              Yeah I don't think I've seen player announce for active clubs before. They normally wait till their destinations season is over.

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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10968

                                Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                                Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                                Yes Hawks, more of it I say! Happy we are meanwhile focused on the game ahead.
                                I don't know, the reports of Baz's new girlfriend could be a major distraction.

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