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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15093

    Originally posted by JackCJohnston2000

    If we're gonna change coach, which we shouldn't, then we'll have to go outside of the box. Getting an in house hire will be more of the same but not in a good way, not enough evolution or a fresh voice.

    He'd be a great senior coach somewhere else though!
    Not sure this is applicable to Pratt though.

    This is his only second year at the club. As rightly pointed out he has transformed our defence across the ground and has seen what good looks like and what bad looks like at the Eagles.

    Remember when the Hawks pushed Clarkson out to grab Mitchell...

    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15093

      Originally posted by GVGjr

      Could you imagine the pressure KWW and Bains would be under if Butters or Rowell said I'm really interested to play under Bevo.
      My take on the whole situation is that KWW and Bains want Beveridge to coach 2026 and beyond. The call is totally Luke's call.

      Are you reading it differently?
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 43870

        Originally posted by azabob

        My take on the whole situation is that KWW and Bains want Beveridge to coach 2026 and beyond. The call is totally Luke's call.

        Are you reading it differently?
        That's not as clear to me.
        Perhaps with Kylie and Ameet there is slight preference for Bevo to stay but the delay is probably in case things go pear shaped.
        Bevo is giving off mixed signals. My gut feel is that he has another option he is considering.
        I really don't know if both Bevo and the club want to get anything signed before the mid season bye.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • JackCJohnston2000
          Rookie List
          • May 2024
          • 189

          Why would Bevo want to leave to coach another team next year? I could see him leaving to take some time away from coaching, go to a director of coaching role or something and then maybe returning to senior coaching in a few years.

          But what offer could he have on the table at another club that is better than what he's got at Footscray already?

          None of the available jobs would have a better list, better facilities or more recent success. The only reason would be a disconnect between him and Ameet/Kylie but they've seemed at best really supportive or at worst professionally uninvolved. And is that reason enough to leave? I just don't see him as they bloke.

          He loves the players and they love him. Until that changes or he loses the fire for coaching, I can't possibly see him being the one to leave by his own choice. The club on the other hand...

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          • Uninformed
            Draftee
            • Jan 2023
            • 726

            Originally posted by GVGjr

            That's not as clear to me.
            Perhaps with Kylie and Ameet there is slight preference for Bevo to stay but the delay is probably in case things go pear shaped.
            Bevo is giving off mixed signals. My gut feel is that he has another option he is considering.
            I really don't know if both Bevo and the club want to get anything signed before the mid season bye.
            KWW and Bains were hammered by the media and some supporters for extending Bevo before they had to last time. Would that make them reluctant to make an early call this time? Bit weak if that were the case, so probably more to it.

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18709

              Originally posted by JackCJohnston2000
              Why would Bevo want to leave to coach another team next year? I could see him leaving to take some time away from coaching, go to a director of coaching role or something and then maybe returning to senior coaching in a few years.

              But what offer could he have on the table at another club that is better than what he's got at Footscray already?

              None of the available jobs would have a better list, better facilities or more recent success. The only reason would be a disconnect between him and Ameet/Kylie but they've seemed at best really supportive or at worst professionally uninvolved. And is that reason enough to leave? I just don't see him as they bloke.

              He loves the players and they love him. Until that changes or he loses the fire for coaching, I can't possibly see him being the one to leave by his own choice. The club on the other hand...
              It's a good point, my only guess would be he feels like it's time.
              He did mention on that fc interview you can feel like you've worn out your welcome.
              I wonder if that's a projection of how he feels rather than the club. Ergo he's looking for a new challenge.

              There's a part of me that wouldn't be surprised if Bevo is doing the whole fk you, if you don't want me I don't want you thing. But I'm probably way off there.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • Kingbiggs
                Rookie List
                • Jul 2024
                • 78

                Listening to bevo recently on a few new podcasts, his job at the start of 2024 took a toll on his wife when the media were coming for him. I think that's mainly where his decision lies, based on how we go this year & what the scrutiny is like.
                He said the first time he questioned his coaching mortality was when he saw how it affected his wife, speaks to the person he is that it came into consideration. I think hes just enjoying it & its showing in his coaching, in my opinion there is still no one better to lead our footy club

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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15172

                  As someone who can be critical of our team/club (well is critical!) and its performances, I find this situation intriguing.

                  I totally get the clubs position in waiting this out... we jumped too early to re-sign Bevo last time around and were in a state of plateauing for the following 18-24 months, but the way Beveridge has turned the tide since the midpoint of the 2024 season has been impressive. However, the absolute shit-show was our performance in the EF looms large in my thoughts... he got so many things wrong in the lead-up/in that match and it bit us on the ass, these included:

                  - The Jamarra situation
                  - Treloar carrying an injury
                  - Liberatore & Duryea physically cooked
                  - no role for Gallagher
                  - Daniel & Macrae hanging on for dear life
                  - poor use of Bont

                  It led to an embarrassing performance which Bevo as coach has to wear.

                  Since that night I've been impressed by the list mgt & structure changes that been made and are bullish to what the season holds... but I'm supportive of the hold pattern we're in and feel we shouldn't be making a decision until we get well past the mid-point of the season so we can properly determine if Luke is the right man to take us forward.

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                  • Kingbiggs
                    Rookie List
                    • Jul 2024
                    • 78

                    I agree, i'm happy to wait until after & I think Bevo is too, to avoid scrutiny. I think we're going to finish top 4 this year personally so let's see

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                    • JackCJohnston2000
                      Rookie List
                      • May 2024
                      • 189

                      I'll say it... if Bevo chooses to leave for another club, I think that'd be a bigger indictment on us than if Bontempelli left for another club.

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15172

                        Originally posted by JackCJohnston2000
                        I'll say it... if Bevo chooses to leave for another club, I think that'd be a bigger indictment on us than if Bontempelli left for another club.
                        Happy for you run with that opinion... doesn't mean it's correct.

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                        • Kingbiggs
                          Rookie List
                          • Jul 2024
                          • 78

                          Rumours swirling he's agreed to 3+ year deal

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18709

                            Originally posted by Kingbiggs
                            Rumours swirling he's agreed to 3+ year deal
                            Like
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • JackCJohnston2000
                              Rookie List
                              • May 2024
                              • 189

                              Originally posted by Mantis

                              Happy for you run with that opinion... doesn't mean it's correct.
                              No opinion is "correct" haha

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                              • SonofScray
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 4126

                                Originally posted by Mantis
                                As someone who can be critical of our team/club (well is critical!) and its performances, I find this situation intriguing.

                                I totally get the clubs position in waiting this out... we jumped too early to re-sign Bevo last time around and were in a state of plateauing for the following 18-24 months, but the way Beveridge has turned the tide since the midpoint of the 2024 season has been impressive. However, the absolute shit-show was our performance in the EF looms large in my thoughts... he got so many things wrong in the lead-up/in that match and it bit us on the ass, these included:

                                - The Jamarra situation
                                - Treloar carrying an injury
                                - Liberatore & Duryea physically cooked
                                - no role for Gallagher
                                - Daniel & Macrae hanging on for dear life
                                - poor use of Bont

                                It led to an embarrassing performance which Bevo as coach has to wear.

                                Since that night I've been impressed by the list mgt & structure changes that been made and are bullish to what the season holds... but I'm supportive of the hold pattern we're in and feel we shouldn't be making a decision until we get well past the mid-point of the season so we can properly determine if Luke is the right man to take us forward.
                                Hard one to untangle.

                                I’m inclined to move on still. He’s had an exceptionally long tenure, and been through the cycle post flag twice. There’s been times already when it would have been absolutely appropriate to let him go. But we back him in and here we are.

                                We’ve looked OK, and are in OK shape at 2-1 to start the season. Apply the lens around injury management and we’re looking good. Compared to recent seasons, I have some hope that we’ll push for top four and know that we aren’t cooked already.

                                He’s presenting differently. This isn’t Snow Button Bevo. Or even Mad Scientist Bevo. Maybe the conditions are just right for him to do what he enjoys in the role and play to his own strengths. But how long for? And how can we trust that the issues of that disastrous Hawks EF final, the GF collapse, the EF collapse v Freo, getting bashed by GWS etc in amongst incohesive, distracted, disinterested efforts, joyless footy and the persistent, confected, finite us against them emotional efforts and let downs aren’t just going to slide back into frame? Not enough credits in the bank to just hand wave that away because of the start we’ve had.

                                I think there’s a world in which we say he’s tooled up and ready for another three. It’s about 7 games away from reality.

                                Gut says, that’s where it is headed. I’ll hold some doubts if it is warranted, or we got spooked by outside demand if we go earlier and if we plateau again, or fall short performance wise it’s going to be painful.

                                He’s done well to have, e not want him sacked regardless and while he is here, go Bevo.
                                Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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