2023 List Management Thread

[Happy Days]

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He's actually not too bad. I used to have the same opinion however I have changed it of late.

He's a decent talent.

So they got to you too.

[Grantysghost]

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So they got to you too.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Pick 12 and 19 for Pick 6 (roughly) doesn't really sound like a great deal. Especially if a player we want is taken (i.e. McKercher).

I'd be questioning if we need Croft, and if there are other players who would better suit us.

[Axe Man]

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Pick 12 and 19 for Pick 6 (roughly) doesn't really sound like a great deal. Especially if a player we want is taken (i.e. McKercher).

I'd be questioning if we need Croft, and if there are other players who would better suit us.

There are rarely surprises in the top 10, we will likely know exactly who will be available at our pick. And Croft for a bunch of 2nd and 3rd round picks is a bargain.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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There are rarely surprises in the top 10, we will likely know exactly who will be available at our pick. And Croft for a bunch of 2nd and 3rd round picks is a bargain.

I don't think it is as simple as that though.

If we take Croft it means we forego a first round talent who might be better suited to what we actually need from a list profile perspective. Taking Croft also means we lose second/third round picks.

[JanLorMill]

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Noticed Silvagni wasn't picked again.

He's not a bad player, we could do a lot worse.

Could do a lot better. Jo Silvagni still looks good.

[Axe Man]

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I don't think it is as simple as that though.

If we take Croft it means we forego a first round talent who might be better suited to what we actually need from a list profile perspective. Taking Croft also means we lose second/third round picks.

And if we take pick 12 and 19 we forego a top 6 pick and Croft who is currently rated just outside the top 10. I get what you are saying but I don't think there is a club that wouldn't take pick 6 and Croft. We traditionally draft for talent rather than needs in the first round and pick 6 and Croft > picks 12 and 19.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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And if we take pick 12 and 19 we forego a top 6 pick and Croft who is currently rated just outside the top 10. I get what you are saying but I don't think there is a club that wouldn't take pick 6 and Croft. We traditionally draft for talent rather than needs in the first round and pick 6 and Croft > picks 12 and 19.

This is what concerns me. I agree with the approach generally speaking, but given our list needs after taking the likes of Naughton/Marra/Darcy/Busslinger, I'm not sure using another first rounder on a KPP is what we need.

Hypothetically if Croft was on the open market (not F/S) and we had Pick 10-15 (whilst also having an earlier pick) would we take him? I have my doubts.

We'd want to be really confident that Croft can be a star KPP to do it. More to that, we'd want to be confident he can be a star KPD because he's unlikely to dislodge Naughton, Marra or Darcy from the forward half of the ground.

[azabob]

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Pick 12 and 19 for Pick 6 (roughly) doesn't really sound like a great deal. Especially if a player we want is taken (i.e. McKercher).

I'd be questioning if we need Croft, and if there are other players who would better suit us.

I've been questioning the need for Croft since mid way through the season when it became apparent he would be first round selection.

We already have 3 young key forwards and our list profile from age is perspective is not in a great space compared to our onfield results.

[Grantysghost]

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I've been questioning the need for Croft since mid way through the season when it became apparent he would be first round selection.

We already have 3 young key forwards and our list profile from age is perspective is not in a great space compared to our onfield results.

Same, don't need him. Can't see the point the list needs to be balanced.
I get the feeling it will be the two picks.

However I guess two top 20 talents coming in isn't a bad thing.

Let's hope Croft can maybe develop as a key back.

[chef]

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Sounds like we need to play Naughton back in defence.

[Grantysghost]

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Sounds like we need to play Naughton back in defence.

Heresy!

[lemmon]

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I've been questioning the need for Croft since mid way through the season when it became apparent he would be first round selection.

We already have 3 young key forwards and our list profile from age is perspective is not in a great space compared to our onfield results.

I'm sure it doesn't actually factor in Power and Co's decision making but there is an element of 'what if' with father-sons too - especially potential power-forwards with rare athletic traits. I'm not a huge draft watcher, but I haven't loved what I've seen of Croft, yet I'd still take him because he COULD project as an Eric Hipwood and it'd be horrendous to see that happen somewhere else.

I think we're in a strong position with Croft if we manage to trade down. We get a 'banker' at pick 6, then can package together some mediocre selections for a high-risk, high-reward prospect who will have time to develop in the twos without any expectation.

[Rocket Science]

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[GVGjr]

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Sounds like we need to play Naughton back in defence.

I can't see that happening other than the odd cameos.
Replacing his almost 2 goals a game would be a huge challenge as well.