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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11844

    Re: 2023 List Management Thread

    Originally posted by macca
    "flexible" , could there be some live trading ?

    Sam wants to keep the first pick, and potential second rnd pick or another 2nd round pick in this year's draft.
    Was going to say Sam's pretty flexible.

    Asked about Lohman said he wouldn't comment on individuals but looking for pace and covering the ground as well as intercept ability down back. So Lohman/Doedee rumours matching that.
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    • lemmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2008
      • 6522

      Re: 2023 List Management Thread

      Originally posted by hujsh
      Was going to say Sam's pretty flexible.

      Asked about Lohman said he wouldn't comment on individuals but looking for pace and covering the ground as well as intercept ability down back. So Lohman/Doedee rumours matching that.
      That'd probably fit Liam Henry as well.

      I think our needs have changed a little bit and we were desperately lacking grunt on the inside against the Hawks and GWS in particular, so I'd hope we are looking for a contested, centre-square on-baller through the draft as well.

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11844

        Re: 2023 List Management Thread

        Originally posted by lemmon
        That'd probably fit Liam Henry as well.

        I think our needs have changed a little bit and we were desperately lacking grunt on the inside against the Hawks and GWS in particular, so I'd hope we are looking for a contested, centre-square on-baller through the draft as well.
        He mentioned having an eye to the future with regards to having players come in as our mid brigade ages (more in the context of the draft) but also mentioned earlier that the priorities established at the start of the year hadn't really changed (more in the context of trade discussions)
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        • bulldogsthru&thru
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • May 2011
          • 7704

          Re: 2023 List Management Thread

          Originally posted by macca
          "flexible" , could there be some live trading ?

          Sam wants to keep the first pick, and potential second rnd pick or another 2nd round pick in this year's draft.
          I'd love to know how he plans to keep our first pick and not have it go towards a bid on Croft.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44676

            Re: 2023 List Management Thread

            Powers comment that we will take between 2 and 4 picks isn't that inspiring.
            Way too conservative with list spots.
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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 7704

              Re: 2023 List Management Thread

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Powers comment that we will take between 2 and 4 picks isn't that inspiring.
              Way too conservative with list spots.
              It's only going to be good if we land a top 5 pick. Otherwise yes, it means we'll hardly refresh the list.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66774

                Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                Powers comment that we will take between 2 and 4 picks isn't that inspiring.
                Way too conservative with list spots.
                With the picks we have, can't expect more than that
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                • hujsh
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 11844

                  Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  Powers comment that we will take between 2 and 4 picks isn't that inspiring.
                  Way too conservative with list spots.
                  Agree but if we get 2-3 top end picks and a trade or two in I'll live with it assuming we're matching a Croft bid
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44676

                    Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    With the picks we have, can't expect more than that
                    We certainly should be expecting more. We are flexible with a number of scenario's.

                    Whats the problem with picking from later in the draft? Power mentioned that the draft list is strong early (we like it) and then evens out after that (the depth is pretty good).
                    We also held our ground that we wanted a 4th rounder in the Dunkley trade and the indication is that we may not use it now.

                    We took just 3 picks at the National Draft last year and it looks like we might do something similar again this year.
                    If the depth of the list isn't that great and we missed finals surely we need to be a bit more darting than that?
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                    • MrMahatma
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3966

                      Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Powers comment that we will take between 2 and 4 picks isn't that inspiring.
                      Way too conservative with list spots.
                      Yeah, but he's flexible so maybe 4 could stretch to 6 and maybe we'll do 2 or 3 trades.

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                      • MrMahatma
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3966

                        Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        We certainly should be expecting more. We are flexible with a number of scenario's.

                        Whats the problem with picking from later in the draft? Power mentioned that the draft list is strong early and then evens out after that.
                        We also held our ground that we wanted a 4th rounder in the Dunkley trade and the indication is that we may not use it now.

                        We took just 3 picks at the National Draft last year and it looks like we might do something similar again this year.
                        If the depth of the list isn't that great and we missed finals surely we need to be a bit more darting than that?
                        I guess we've brought on Poulter and JOD as young players outside of the ND too.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44676

                          Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                          It's only going to be good if we land a top 5 pick. Otherwise yes, it means we'll hardly refresh the list.
                          Lets see if we can move up the order but if we land Croft and just 2 others from the draft it's another strong indicator that we are rating the list that we have.
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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66774

                            Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            We certainly should be expecting more. We are flexible with a number of scenario's.

                            Whats the problem with picking from later in the draft? Power mentioned that the draft list is strong early and then evens out after that.
                            We also held our ground that we wanted a 4th rounder in the Dunkley trade and the indication is that we may not use it now.

                            We took just 3 picks at the National Draft last year and it looks like we might do something similar again this year.
                            If the depth of the list isn't that great and we missed finals surely we need to be a bit more darting than that?
                            Well what I am saying is the late picks are hit and miss as we have seen the last few years when we didn't have the early picks.

                            We either have to trade players for picks or swap first rounders for multiple 2nd

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            Lets see if we can move up the order but if we land Croft and just 2 others from the draft it's another strong indicator that we are rating the list that we have.
                            Not true at all - players available may not be as good as the ones you have on the list
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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44676

                              Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Well what I am saying is the late picks are hit and miss as we have seen the last few years when we didn't have the early picks.

                              We either have to trade players for picks or swap first rounders for multiple 2nd
                              You've also said that this year we didn't have depth so shouldn't we be looking to take some chances given Power mentioned that he liked the depth of the draft?
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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 18972

                                Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                Powers comment that we will take between 2 and 4 picks isn't that inspiring.
                                Way too conservative with list spots.
                                2 is an interesting low water mark isn't it.
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