2023 List Management Thread

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  • DOG GOD
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jul 2007
    • 6617

    #841
    Re: 2023 List Management Thread

    Originally posted by azabob
    So we've recruited Liam Jones but are we still too light on.

    Jones played 19 games (over 30)
    Gardner played 10 games (injured and played a lot of VFL)
    Keath played 18 games (should he even be on our list)?

    I still think we need to bring someone else in unless we are going to see a dramatically positional change.
    We will probably have Ruscoe from pies or another C grade defender who can?t get a game at a descent club.
    We will need someone. Jones is great. Gardner VFL. Buss and Darcy not ready yet.
    Keath was done half way thru 2022.
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11605

      #842
      Re: 2023 List Management Thread

      Originally posted by DOG GOD
      We will probably have Ruscoe from pies or another C grade defender who can?t get a game at a descent club.
      This is not a comment on Ruscoe, but Markov was a player recently who wasn't getting a game at a rubbish club and has now blossomed into an elite running rebound defender with a premiership contender.

      No doubt we are scouting all opposition lists to see what diamonds can be unearthed in areas of need, as we should be.
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • Critter
        Draftee
        • Jan 2023
        • 506

        #843
        Re: 2023 List Management Thread

        Originally posted by Rocco Jones
        I love Roarke and he just seems the best team guy ever but really hope we don't keep him. Well I'd be happy for him but don't think it's a good call.
        I don't see any replacement for Duryea on the horizon - JJ is a rebounder with a reasonable defensive side; Baily Dale is a rebounder with no defensive side; and Luke Cleary still looks every inch the VFL player he did when we recruited him. Ed is our only elite defender - a rebounder with great defensive skills. But he's a unicorn at Whitten Oval. We need a lock-down defender to attend to the Charlie Camerons of this world.

        At Hawthorn, Duryea provoked a reaction similar to that which many Western Bulldog supporters have towards Roarke - frustration. But through perserverence and focus on his role, he won through. I think that, given a run at it and given specialist training in the pre-season, Roarke's physical strength, marking capability and athleticism will see him him become quite useful in the same way as Duryea.

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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11494

          #844
          Re: 2023 List Management Thread

          Originally posted by Critter
          I don't see any replacement for Duryea on the horizon
          Gallagher? He looked impressive in the VFL final on Saturday, so long as he can defend.

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          • lemmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2008
            • 6599

            #845
            Re: 2023 List Management Thread

            Originally posted by Critter
            At Hawthorn, Duryea provoked a reaction similar to that which many Western Bulldog supporters have towards Roarke - frustration. But through perserverence and focus on his role, he won through. I think that, given a run at it and given specialist training in the pre-season, Roarke's physical strength, marking capability and athleticism will see him him become quite useful in the same way as Duryea.
            Huge difference was Duryea's ability to get on the park though. The lowest number of games Duryea played in a season was 15 at Hawthorn, Roarke's played 10, 5, 6, 14 and 0 since 2018.

            I think Roarke probably has the ability to make it as a solid AFL footballer, but I just don't think his body is going to let him do that.

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            • Happy Days
              Hall of Fame
              • May 2008
              • 10246

              #846
              Re: 2023 List Management Thread

              Originally posted by DOG GOD
              We will probably have Ruscoe from pies or another C grade defender who can?t get a game at a descent club.
              We will need someone. Jones is great. Gardner VFL. Buss and Darcy not ready yet.
              Keath was done half way thru 2022.
              I wouldn’t be opposed to Ruscoe to be honest. He looked absolutely huge and much improved in the only game he got for them this year.
              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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              • Critter
                Draftee
                • Jan 2023
                • 506

                #847
                Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                Originally posted by Axe Man
                Gallagher? He looked impressive in the VFL final on Saturday, so long as he can defend.
                Good suggestion. We should find out. What we would need to do is to train him for the role. Start at VFL and go from there. But let's not turn him into a VFL jack of all trades.
                I would keep Roarke on the list next year and have both vie for the same role for, while Roarke has a history of injury as Lemmon points out, so does Gallagher. Gives us insurance.
                Last edited by Critter; 12-09-2023, 01:45 PM. Reason: Insert missing word

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                • meenies
                  Rookie List
                  • May 2014
                  • 217

                  #848
                  Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  Gallagher? He looked impressive in the VFL final on Saturday, so long as he can defend.
                  I had him down as Duryea's replacement in the preseason before all his injuries. He has finished the year off well so I hope he is trained for that position for nest year.

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                  • MrMahatma
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3982

                    #849
                    Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                    Age reporting we’re into Nick Coffield from the Saints.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #850
                      Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                      Originally posted by MrMahatma
                      Age reporting we’re into Nick Coffield from the Saints.
                      Super Dogs fan, Nick Coffield. Who told the press he hoped to slip to us in his draft.

                      Not sure about it.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67705

                        #851
                        Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                        Originally posted by MrMahatma
                        Age reporting we’re into Nick Coffield from the Saints.
                        The story:

                        Dogs sniffing around injured Saint


                        A second club – the Western Bulldogs – has expressed interest in hard-luck St Kilda defender Nick Coffield, one of a number of Saints whose future is in limbo.


                        Brisbane also inquired about the out-of-contract Coffield, the No.8 pick in the 2017 draft who has not played at AFL level since 2021 due to an ACL setback and then persistent calf issues.


                        The 23-year-old made it back for four VFL games late in the season, averaging 23 disposals, six marks and eight rebound 50s, and is one of a number of out-of-contract players on the Bulldogs’ radar, including promising Lion Kai Lohmann.
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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #852
                          Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          The story:

                          Dogs sniffing around injured Saint


                          A second club – the Western Bulldogs – has expressed interest in hard-luck St Kilda defender Nick Coffield, one of a number of Saints whose future is in limbo.


                          Brisbane also inquired about the out-of-contract Coffield, the No.8 pick in the 2017 draft who has not played at AFL level since 2021 due to an ACL setback and then persistent calf issues.


                          The 23-year-old made it back for four VFL games late in the season, averaging 23 disposals, six marks and eight rebound 50s, and is one of a number of out-of-contract players on the Bulldogs’ radar, including promising Lion Kai Lohmann.
                          F2 - Lohmann
                          F3 - Coffield

                          ?
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • JanLorMill
                            WOOF Member
                            • Feb 2023
                            • 1743

                            #853
                            Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            F2 - Lohmann
                            F3 - Coffield

                            ?
                            Why we stopping at Coffield? Get Hunter Clark as well just to prove we drafted better with Naughton at a pick after them. Billings too

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                            • G-Mo77
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9901

                              #854
                              Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                              Coffield has been injured for 2 years, perfect candidate for our rehab group motivator.

                              Just walk away Dogs FFS.

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #855
                                Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                                Originally posted by G-Mo77
                                Coffield has been injured for 2 years, perfect candidate for our rehab group motivator.

                                Just walk away Dogs FFS.
                                Who takes TOB spot as captain of the rehab group though?
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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