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Re: 2023 List Management Thread
Any interest in these DFA's?
JACKSON HATELY
The former Crow and Giant is searching for a third chance at the top level after he was let go from West Lakes. The former first-round pick played 15 games for Adelaide in three seasons after requesting a trade back to South Australia after two seasons at the Giants. Given how testy his trade talks were, it‘s arguably a surprise he wasn’t given greater opportunity at the Crows. Hately believes he can “match it with anyone”, telling Trade Radio was playing close to his best footy in the SANFL and banging down the door to no reward. ”This year, the opportunities weren’t really there. We had a very healthy midfield group and a list that was playing quite well,” Hately said. ”I feel extremely confident that I can still play good AFL footy. I feel like I have played good AFL footy in the past. This year the opportunities didn’t quite come, but I’m still super confident.” A big bodied mid who has spent five years in the system could prove to be a valuable option for clubs looking for extra midfield depth. Turning 23 this weekend, Hately is still in the right bracket to join a rebuilding or regenerating team and provide an extra layer of depth – perhaps a West Coast or North Melbourne, or maybe even a club like Hawthorn – who could try and stash him at Box Hill before picking him up as a rookie in the mid-season draft if he impresses.
LOCHIE O’BRIEN
A year ago it looked as if Lochie O‘Brien had saved his football career when he was rewarded with a two-year extension at Carlton. Now he is looking for a new home to salvage it, after he was delisted with a year remaining on his contract. The former pick 10 played 66 games for the Blues but only managed six games this year – four of them as the starting substitute – as recruit Blake Acres and draftee Ollie Hollands surged ahead of him in the wing pecking order at Carlton. He could add to a team with the dash, outside run and kicking skills that have always been a feature in his game. The Mildura product attended Geelong Grammar for school and could maybe see an opening back down the highway at the Cats as they look to keep regenerating their list with younger talent. Collingwood have also previously shown fleeting interest in O’Brien on multiple occasions but after the success and stability in the Collingwood list, it looks like that opportunity may not be there anymore.
TRENT BIANCO
Bianco was one of five Collingwood players not offered a contract after their Grand Final triumph, departing his boyhood club after playing 23 games including last year‘s Preliminary Final against Sydney, after being selected in the 2019 National Draft. Bianco only played the one game this season at AFL level, but was a constant performer at the lower level, averaging 23.4 disposals from 18 games in the VFL. AFL Media’s Josh Gabelich reported in August that there was rival interest in Bianco as a delisted free agent, and the Victorian has made it clear he’d be willing to play anywhere. “There’s a little bit of interest out there,” Bianco said on Trade Radio. ”I would just love to be on an AFL list again. I’m probably hungrier than ever at the moment and I feel like I’ve got so much more to give. I was playing some really good footy this year in the VFL. Our team was gone very well, so it was hard to sort of break in but I feel I’ve got so much more to give. I think I’m at an age now where I’ve lived the experience in Melbourne and I feel like I’d be ready to make a move (interstate).”
BRODIE MCLAUGHLIN
The SSP recruit was a surprise axing at the Suns because of their list squeeze, with a haul of Academy products coming down the pipeline. “I had plenty of open and honest conversations throughout the years with (Suns list boss) Craig Cameron, and with the current list set up and academy players coming in next year … we knew it would be tough to stick around at the club,“ he explained on Trade Radio. “Craig has been awesome with me and very complimentary of my year. He said he would have loved to keep me, but realistically … I probably wouldn’t be able to play next year.” The Frosty Miller Medallist and VFL premiership player is hitting the prime of his career at 25 years old, and could prove to be the perfect foil for a club in need of a marking and goal kicking target or that ready-made depth option. Melbourne certainly needs a bit of forward help but they‘re chips in on the Harrison Petty/Jacob van Rooyen combination, with Ben Brown and Tom McDonald as backup, and McLaughlin wouldn’t be an obvious starter ahead of that group. It was reported late in the trade period that St Kilda had shown interest in McLaughlin and could still look to bring him in to provide some assistance for Max King and stiffen up their front half with another genuine tall option; after all Anthony Caminiti was the last man on their list during the pre-season and ended up playing 18 games. Would North Melbourne see him as a ready-made option to assist Nick Larkey?
BRYNN TEAKLE
Up to three clubs have already been linked to the 24-year-old following his six game stint in a year and a half at the Power. Teakle was delisted in the club‘s first round of axings to make room for ruck recruits Ivan Soldo and Jordon Sweet who came into the club on deadline day. AFL Media reported the Western Bulldogs, North Melbourne and the GWS Giants have registered interest in the Western Australian. Sweet’s incoming exit could open a spot on the Bulldogs’ list for a player like Teakle to play a supporting role for All-Australian ruckman Tim English, while Teakle has also been trialled as a defender and can play as a forward target, potentially giving the Dogs more flexibility among their key position stocks. The Kangaroos will also be looking for depth options behind Tristan Xerri, while Teakle could rival Charlie Comben and Callum Coleman-Jones at Arden Street to partner Nick Larkey in attack. The Giants have committed to Braydon Preuss for another year to back up Kieren Briggs but having lost Matthew Flynn as a Free Agent to West Coast, could add some extra depth.
JACK PERIS
The son of Olympic champion Nova broke through for his senior debut in Round 18 this year against the Gold Coast after graduating from the Saints Next Generation Academy. It was the only game he played before he was delisted at the end of the year. Ironically it could be the Suns who give him a second chance. According to SEN‘s Tom Morris, the Suns are exploring the possibility of bringing Peris in to train through the pre-season, with a view to possibly handing him a rookie list spot. The lightning quick half forward impressed with his speed and fleet of foot skills and could still yet have plenty to offer at AFL level in a new environment.
ORAZIO FANTASIA
While he is yet to be officially delisted from Port Adelaide, it appears unlikely that Orazio Fantasia will be at Alberton Oval next season. After two injury riddled seasons, Fantasia has question marks over his body and fitness but is still capable of producing moments of brilliance in the forward half which has piqued rival interest as a depth option. Foxfooty.com.au‘s David Zita reported last week of the Giants’ interest in Fantasia, with the 28-year-old meeting with the club during the trade period and completing a medical. If he is to be let go by the Power, the Giants appear the club most likely to give Fantasia a third chance at AFL level on an incentive-based rookie deal.
SCOTT LYCETT
Similar to Fantasia, Lycett is yet to officially be moved on from Port Adelaide, but the Power‘s dual ruck acquisitions on deadline day all but confirmed that the premiership Eagle’s days at Alberton Oval are numbered. His manager Colin Young confirmed on Trade Radio on deadline day Lycett was deciding between retiring or continuing his career at a third club. After a solid performance in the Power’s unsuccessful finals run it’s clear Lycett still has a bit more to give, and there are always teams willing to spin the ruck merry-go-round. In a virtual trade, Lycett could replace Soldo at Punt Road and provide some experience for Richmond as backup to Toby Nankervis. North Melbourne might also be a suitor for Lycett if he puts himself on the open market as senior experience to young ruck duo Tristian Xerri and Callum Coleman-Jones who have both had their injury troubles in recent seasons. Don’t count out Geelong either, who love the look of young Toby Conway and have the ever-inconsistent Rhys Stanley.
RHYS MATHIESON
Mathieson‘s struggle for game time at the loaded Lions reached a peak in 2023 when he failed to break through for a single senior game. While he is yet to be moved on by the Lions, a move appears imminent after failing to find a new home in the trade period. Mathieson has played 72 games in eight years at the Lions and would feel he still has more to offer after being used as the sub across the 2022 finals series. His experience in big games could be appealing for a club seeking that extra edge in the midfield and maturity around the edges of a young list. As the Eagles continue their long rebuild, could they make a call with the promise of game time in a young team to help play a big role in the climb back up the ladder?
HAYDEN CROZIER
Another one who is yet to be delisted but his time at his current club appears close to up, Crozier could be moving onto his third AFL home. Crozier only managed four games in his sixth year at the Bulldogs. Having battled injuries in recent years, the 29-year-old has struggled to maintain a regular spot in Luke Beveridge‘s side. The 142-gamer could yet prove valuable depth for a side close to contending or provide cover for a side lacking defensive experience. The primary link through the trade period was with Carlton, and Crozier could yet be signed on or invited to train across the pre-season at Princes Park. Adelaide could use some defensive assistance with its young and injury-hit backline, though he doesn’t quite have the size they’d like, while Richmond’s back six has become a problem and they could opt for Crozier as a cheap fill-in.Listening to Brahm's 3rd RacketComment
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Re: 2023 List Management Thread
Hately might be a free hit as a rookie?
Big unit, might be a longer term Dunks type replacement if he can live up to his junior ranking.
What's held him back so far?BT COME BACK!
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You read that profile and his desire and self-belief that comes through and I'm inclined to agree with you totally GG. I'm really puzzled though as to why Adelaide didn't try harder to induce him to stay, given his SANFL performances and age profile?
What team wouldn't want a big bodied mid showing signs of maturity and maybe living up to his early pre-draft billing?Comment
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I'd have some interest in Teakle because we need a versatile ruckman. Hately might be okay to get him over to train with us and see if that works out but I don't think he has enough pace to be a regular senior footballer.Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"Comment
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I liked our model with Caleb Poulter - sign for Footscray and if you impress us we are very likely to pick you in the mid season draft.
I think Hateley and Bianco could be good candidates. I always liked Bramble when he played as well.Comment
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Hatley is s l o w. Don’t think he really does anything well either.
I mentioned in another thread but I’d be happy to give Lachie Bramble a look.- I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -Comment
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Re: 2023 List Management Thread
VDM has a low football IQ and would get cut up playing a lockdown role. I'm over teams playing someone because they are quick and athletic. Would rather someone not so athletic but with a great football IQ like Newcombe has. Give me Sullivan over VDM.Comment
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Re: 2023 List Management Thread
Bramble or Bianco in our VFL program would be a start - take whichever one shows the best form as a lockdown small defender. I see it as a list need.Western Bulldogs: 2016 PremiersComment
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Bramble seems to have pace, kicking skill and a bit of toughness so he would seem to be a decent option for us but I wonder which players jumped ahead of him at the Hawks which caused him to be dropped from the list?
He gets a lot of the footy at the VFL level but the Hawks seemed to move him around a fair bit and he played on the wing and half back.Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"Comment
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Re: 2023 List Management Thread
So whatcha wanna do?
So let’s say Power is happy to take in 6 picks - Pick 6 and combining the next five to cover Croft & Lual. Then try to trade our fourths. We have five vacancies so we need another to use six picks with points. Assuming the Duryea re-signing is correct. (Leaving Roarke & McNeil out of it as they’re rookies). That leaves these options.
A. Cut Croz (cooked)
B. Cut Bedendo (made of glass)
C. Keep both, move a rookie list spot to the main list. Both are better than pick 40 in the rookie draft and take the small hit to the salary cap
D. Cut both, take in the extra pick which may come into around Pick 60 after matched bids, either to use or worst case elevate rookie/s or re-draft a player if we don’t like the talent at that pointRocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023Comment
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Thanks BT.
I’d like to see us take another selection in the draft and that means delisting both. I’m not sure either player factor too highly in our plans for 2024, so unsure what’s to be gained by retaining. Crozier has played some decent football for us but is behind quite a few now and his injury history is a worry. Bedendo unfortunately hasn’t been able to establish himself despite having a few traits we like and also struggles to stay on the park. Let’s take a swing at someone else.Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?Comment
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Cut Croz, move Bedendo to the rookie list.
I wouldn't jump to hire anyone as a DFA yet, I'd have them train with the club and post-draft see about signing someone. Keep an open space so that we have an option for the MSD and try and do the big sell for some players who missed out on the draft or a still young enough to have scope for improvement and try and strengthen Footscray.Comment
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