2023 List Management Thread

[GVGjr]

Re: 2023 List Management Thread

We were linked to Paddy Dow earlier in the year. Ginnivan too. Power has been seen at a couple of Collingwood reserves games recently. I cant recall where these links came from though.

Ive been told we were enquiring about Harmes a while back but haven't heard anything since. There was also a Tomlinson link but that seems to have been shut down.

Dow now seems to be strongly linked to the Saints, I haven't seen anything more with Harmes in the last few weeks and while Ginnivan fits a need it seems unlikely. It was always 3 or 4 years late with Tomlinson and given our age profile and especially now that we are out of the 8 we need to be looking elsewhere. Lohmann has re-signed with Brisbane and Doedee looks like he is heading elsewhere

What's your thoughts on Coffield, Jordon and Teakle? Would that be enough in terms of trades?
Does our supposed interest in Ginnavan and Lohmann make Watson a more likely draft target than McKercher?
Harmes being mentioned doesn't excite, he's just a player without any special traits.

[bulldogtragic]

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We’re really a money ball trade in club trying to take a retread up multiple levels or have them land as a role player who sits just around the best 22 mark.

Ginnivan though would absolutely be best 22 for us. I bet he’d frustrate our coaching panel and selection committee though.

Problem is, how’s that average retread strategy been going for our draft picks: Croz, Hannan, TOB (FA), Baker (DFA), Schache, Lloyd, or the VFL in Gowers, McComb, Cavarra (Will), Hayes with the best Scott and an inconsistent Gardner.

While we pay to dollar to retain our big names, we are struggling with trade and VFL as moneyball options to provide depth and role players. That’s why the 22 lacks and will continue to lack depth.

Our best trading option has been guys on their last contract Lobb, Bruce, Keath, Jones etc. But that for topping up. We aren’t there anymore. Hence Coffield & Teakle are just deflating to hear when we also know we will overpay to keep a ruckman and a non bag kicking KPF (KPD). While local kids who can’t get a game in Brisbane would rather play VFL than with us. And guys who have had dominant VFL years for us played 1 game combined and will leave for SFA.

They aren’t the Rhode years, but a handful of guns (Grant, West, Johno & Smith well paid to stay) and a bunch of fillers in the 22 and fringe trading was about as bad as I can remember it in my lifetime. We aren’t there by a long shot, but the blueprint appears similar.

I’m really struggling to see what the club sees. It must still think we are a tweak off top 4.

[Hot_Doggies]

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We?re really a money ball trade in club trying to take a retread up multiple levels or have them land as a role player who sits just around the best 22 mark.

Ginnivan though would absolutely be best 22 for us. I bet he?d frustrate our coaching panel and selection committee though.

I agree about Ginnivan. Especially if he comes to us as a premiership player he might lack drive and discipline.

This is going to be a very stressful off season, so far we haven?t been ?linked? to a single player I rate or think we need.

[Bornadog]

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I agree about Ginnivan. Especially if he comes to us as a premiership player he might lack drive and discipline.

This is going to be a very stressful off season, so far we haven?t been ?linked? to a single player I rate or think we need.

Early days

[Go_Dogs]

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I can't see Ginnivan coming to us. He seems heavily invested in the Pies. We also won't have much to trade with if we are successful in landing pick 4 form GC

All good points. Plenty to play out yet.

[Mofra]

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What's your thoughts on Coffield, Jordon and Teakle? Would that be enough in terms of trades?
Does our supposed interest in Ginnavan and Lohmann make Watson a more likely draft target than McKercher?
Harmes being mentioned doesn't excite, he's just a player without any special traits.

Coffield - meh. Low risk, medium reward play. Shoudl cost nothing.
James Jordan - UFA and I still think we'd be overpaying.
Teakle - has been delisted so as a freebie ruck cover, yes. We need someone.

I'mn happy we're not getting linked with 30 different players. I really want us to hit the draft rather than trade heavily this year

[azabob]

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Coffield - meh. Low risk, medium reward play. Shoudl cost nothing.
James Jordan - UFA and I still think we'd be overpaying.
Teakle - has been delisted so as a freebie ruck cover, yes. We need someone.

I'mn happy we're not getting linked with 30 different players. I really want us to hit the draft rather than trade heavily this year

Well we will tap the draft. A couple of picks only by the look of it.

[Stevo]

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Coffield - meh. Low risk, medium reward play. Shoudl cost nothing.
James Jordan - UFA and I still think we'd be overpaying.
Teakle - has been delisted so as a freebie ruck cover, yes. We need someone.

I'mn happy we're not getting linked with 30 different players. I really want us to hit the draft rather than trade heavily this year

Have we ever been strongly linked to a lot of players? Do we need to rebuild through the draft or do we need a balance to address some problems now?

[JanLorMill]

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Why would Ginnavan come to us anyway and at what price?
He is borderline best 22 in the premiership favourites. Adored by every Collingwood fan. He is a rock star already.

Come play every week at the bulldogs in a side with questionable desire. No 100K at the G but maybe 10K at Ballarat or Darwin.

[Bornadog]

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Why would Ginnavan come to us anyway and at what price?
He is borderline best 22 in the premiership favourites. Adored by every Collingwood fan. He is a rock star already.

Come play every week at the bulldogs in a side with questionable desire. No 100K at the G but maybe 10K at Ballarat or Darwin.

don't worry he is going nowhere. That was an early rumour, which is just a rumour

[The Doctor]

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Dow now seems to be strongly linked to the Saints, I haven't seen anything more with Harmes in the last few weeks and while Ginnivan fits a need it seems unlikely. It was always 3 or 4 years late with Tomlinson and given our age profile and especially now that we are out of the 8 we need to be looking elsewhere. Lohmann has re-signed with Brisbane and Doedee looks like he is heading elsewhere

What's your thoughts on Coffield, Jordon and Teakle? Would that be enough in terms of trades?
Does our supposed interest in Ginnavan and Lohmann make Watson a more likely draft target than McKercher?
Harmes being mentioned doesn't excite, he's just a player without any special traits.

Coffield looked terrific before his injuries. He hasn't played for 2 years although by all reports did well in his handful of games in the reserves at the end of this season. Could be a money ball selection perhaps. I'm our medical staff will need to assess thoroughly.

Jordan, I'm not sure what he brings that we don't already have.

Teakle, haven't seen much of him so hard to say. We will need a ready to go ruckman (like Sweet was). We should also draft one this year.

[DOG GOD]

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All those names listed are a big no for mine, except ginnivan who is no chance to leave Coll.

None of those players are in our best 22.

[Topdog]

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All those names listed are a big no for mine, except ginnivan who is no chance to leave Coll.

None of those players are in our best 22.

our bottom 6 is incredibly weak. Coffield could do a job if he ever gets on the park.

[JanLorMill]

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It all depends on the cost. No issue trying Coffield, Jordan or teakle at the right price. No 1st or 2nd rounders

[G-Mo77]

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It all depends on the cost. No issue trying Coffield, Jordan or teakle at the right price. No 1st or 2nd rounders

That's the problem. We'll commit to them before we even have them then we'll have to give up more. See Rory Lobb from the 2022 period.