2023 List Management Thread

[Grantysghost]

Re: 2023 List Management Thread

This made me spit my coffee out.

I'm not sure if that's how you meant it, but it was very funny.

I was serious, however I like your version that I was taking the mick better

I need to know what you think of Sanders MJ!

[Mofra]

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Who on our list would we consider a candidate to play as a medium forward/ play high?

To me we're lacking variety in the front half, someone like Bedendo might give us that.

We spent a fair bit of time playing Baz/Macrae high, Scott at times, and often we play Marra in that role (he was pretty shallow in some of his better games, including his 5 against Melbourne).

[Mofra]

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Wood's first year was 2008 for 0 games, 2 games in 2009. He was playing Williamstown reserves at one point and was miles away.

Wood always, ALWAYS had a defined role though

[jeemak]

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We spent a fair bit of time playing Baz/Macrae high, Scott at times, and often we play Marra in that role (he was pretty shallow in some of his better games, including his 5 against Melbourne).

Sorry, I mean high and capable of taking some marks up the line.

I think Bedendo has potential to do something those you mention, except for Scott who is quite good at it for his height, can't.

[macca]

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Sorry, I mean high and capable of taking some marks up the line.

I think Bedendo has potential to do something those you mention, except for Scott who is quite good at it for his height, can't.

It could sound like Bedendo has a case for playing in defense as intercepting fullback , if he is a good mark.

[mjp]

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I was serious, however I like your version that I was taking the mick better

I need to know what you think of Sanders MJ!

I like Sanders. I've talked about him a bit - reminds me of Coniglio.

[soupman]

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Fair enough. That year 1 was left out of the career section on stat sites.

Fwiw DraftGuru is really useful for this.

[Uninformed]

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Would you want to rookie list or delist Bedendo?

Has to be a medical/fitness evaluation. Those watching training said he really stood out pre-injury. Great mark, leap, speed, agility and good skills were mentioned at various times. Models himself on Howe from Collingwood. If he has that in him at AFL level post injury, gotta be a keeper.

[Uninformed]

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Could he be like a Jeremy Howe type? How does he read the play?

That is where I would like to see him.

[Uninformed]

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Ultimately you have to back the club's judgement but have we had a player like Bedendo come good before? Someone so consistently injured and having played a couple games only without a clear best position with 2 years in the system.

The one that came to mind for me was Dylan Grimes from Richmond. Perpetually injured when younger.

[Uninformed]

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This.

We frequently put years into guys that never really show they are AFL quality. I can think of one player (Roarke, and whether or not he is good is debateable) we have had on the list that has turned out good without getting games in at worst their second year and being on a clear trajectory towards being an AFL player by their third.

It would be so much more beneficial for list turnover and uncovering new talent if we made the call, that if they aren't in the mix by year 2 for gametime and haven't shown clear signs of being an AFL talent by year 3 then we cut them. Would also apply if they have two stagnant seasons as not comfortably being in the mix.

If we followed this rule we would have cut:
Ben Cavarra after 2, Khamis after 2, Porter after 2, Greene after 2, Lynch after 2, Roarke after 2, Collins after 2,
Will Hayes after 3 years, Young after 3, Webb after 3,
Bedendo now after 3 years, Sweet* after 3 years (two seasons ago),
and Garcia has stagnated at that year 2 stage for years 3 and 4, so i think would be cut now after 4 years, likewise Crozier is just sitting there

We do that and we free up 24 one year contracts in Bevo's reign, which is 2 and a bit a year, and the total cost is basically one and a half solid seasons from Roarke and a handful of serviceable games from Young. This is moneyball.


*Sweet may also be able to disprove this, but he plays a weird position and contrary to popular opinion is still not a sure thing.

Good point. Can see the value in that approach. The 'hope springs eternal' in me still wants Domenic Bedendo to make it though. Anyone with a name like that has to be a star!

[FrediKanoute]

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Where does he play at AFL level?

High Half Forward. That awkward sized player with decent goal sense

[mjp]

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High Half Forward. That awkward sized player with decent goal sense

Yeah - but that's a role with massive structural importance defensively and with a HUGE workload in terms of distance covered.

Do you really think he can do that?

On top of that, we play an extra at the stop so he's going to be needed to essentially position himself to strike on (potentially two) oppo defenders who are corridor positioned for release AND get back forward....

I just don't see it mate.

[G-Mo77]

Re: 2023 List Management Thread

Roarke and Crozier officially gone now.

[Scraggers]

Re: 2023 List Management Thread

Hayden Crozier and Roarke Smith will not be offered contracts for 2024 and beyond.