2014 draft watch

[bulldogtragic]

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What do you see us giving up for Zaine?
Presuming we do

If we stay down and our second rounder is say 22. I can't see others spending 21 or higher. With FA compensation (etc) then our third is 44 give or take. Having seen him 4 times this year, I'd take that right now. But I'm pretty sure he's carrying osteitis pubis so maybe were lucky??

[lemmon]

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From Paige Caradona on Twitter:

"Lock 'em in:
Zaine Cordy - WVD
Josh Clayton - BRI
Darcy Moore - COL
Harry Dear - HAW
Billy Stretch - MEL
Alec Waterman - WCE"

"Zaine played on Sherridan-Ferry and Harry Dear and nullified them both."

"he's got a lot of Dale Morris in the way the plays. Physically developed more than Ayce at the same age."

[bulldogtragic]

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I'm hoping they wouldn't fire the father sons talk up. Zaine has been playing KPP at APS and TAC Cup, but clearly he is not a KPP at the next level unless he grows. He had a good game today (and much of the year) no doubt he did, but for mine he's quick and a great spoiler but I wouldn't pile the Dale Morris tag on him. I think over the longer term I'd see him make Tom Young redundant and make Wood move forward, or wing. He is athletically gifted so I would prefer him able to play tall, but he's very good and will get better athletically. Not saying you did though Lem, but the names I have in my mind I won't put on him just yet.

He's a lock, has been for me since I first saw him. I'm now much more interested in Calder for the rest of the year...

[Webby]

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If, for example, it were looking likely that Zaine would require our pick 20-22 or so, should we perhaps look at trading that pick away as soon as possible - thus allowing us to use our pick 38-40 on him?

Does anyone know how the rules work on that??

(Because, if that was the scenario, surely it'd be a no-brainier?)

[bulldogtragic]

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If, for example, it were looking likely that Zaine would require our pick 20-22 or so, should we perhaps look at trading that pick away as soon as possible - thus allowing us to use our pick 38-40 on him?

Does anyone know how the rules work on that??

(Because, if that was the scenario, surely it'd be a no-brainier?)

No they do father son nominations before the movement of pics. If Zaine gets anywhere near top 21, his osteitis pubis will surely count against him.

[Remi Moses]

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No they do father son nominations before the movement of pics. If Zaine gets anywhere near top 21, his osteitis pubis will surely count against him.

Also his asthma, and diabetes come into play.

[bulldogtragic]

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Also his asthma, and diabetes come into play.

Cruel hand he's been dealt, but we can grab our holy books and pray.

[GVGjr]

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If we stay down and our second rounder is say 22. I can't see others spending 21 or higher. With FA compensation (etc) then our third is 44 give or take. Having seen him 4 times this year, I'd take that right now. But I'm pretty sure he's carrying osteitis pubis so maybe were lucky??

I'd be reluctant to take him in the 2nd round. He might turn out to be a good player but I have some doubts about him. At 192cm tall with a slim build he will need to display some pace and skills to be able to play on a flank.

[Scorlibo]

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I'd be reluctant to take him in the 2nd round. He might turn out to be a good player but I have some doubts about him. At 192cm tall with a slim build he will need to display some pace and skills to be able to play on a flank.

I agree. I'd be apprehensive about drafting him at all, to be honest. The comparisons to Dale Morris are forgetful of just how athletically gifted Dale is - and Easton Wood for that matter. Players who want to play third tall back need to be able to do everything pretty well and what I see in Zaine is someone who does everything just averagely. It will be very interesting to see if/where another team bids for him.

[bulldogtragic]

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I agree. I'd be apprehensive about drafting him at all, to be honest. The comparisons to Dale Morris are forgetful of just how athletically gifted Dale is - and Easton Wood for that matter. Players who want to play third tall back need to be able to do everything pretty well and what I see in Zaine is someone who does everything just averagely. It will be very interesting to see if/where another team bids for him.

I agree, not even close for mine. Not a bit harsh with 'just average'?

[Remi Moses]

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I agree, not even close for mine. Not a bit harsh with 'just average'?

I hope we don't get "spooked" like we have in the past.

[Webby]

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I agree. I'd be apprehensive about drafting him at all, to be honest. The comparisons to Dale Morris are forgetful of just how athletically gifted Dale is - and Easton Wood for that matter. Players who want to play third tall back need to be able to do everything pretty well and what I see in Zaine is someone who does everything just averagely. It will be very interesting to see if/where another team bids for him.

That's good then. I was a little worried about a difficult situation presenting itself. Hopefully we can get okay value in a later round. I've never seen the kid kick a ball, so was just wondering.

One last question, have any of you seen Jayden Foster play? Peter was a later bloomer (as was Billy Swan - thus Collingwood's faith in Dane) and I know Jayden's been given an extra TAC Cup year as an 18 year old. Any word on how he's shaping up?

[Bornadog]

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Who wants to be the No. 1 draft pick?


Emma Quayle

The new under-18 competition is halfway through, and has raised more questions than it has answered about the pointy end of this year’s draft. Which keeps things interesting, mostly for the recruiters who will be picking there. This could be a year where they won’t be too disappointed if they miss out on pick one, given the evenness of the group and the lack of one blatant stand-out.

With three rounds to go, no player has really insisted that the top spot be theirs. That may well happen in the next few weeks but at the moment the same names are thereabouts, still dividing people. Peter Wright missed Vic Metro’s 44-point loss to Vic Country on Sunday, with Metro deciding to fulfil the requirement to give 32 players at least two games in the first three games before settling its side down, and the tall forward/ruckman is maybe one big game away from satisfying some of the recruiters’ queries, mostly tied in to whether they think he's more of a forward or ruckman.

Paddy McCartin kicked three goals for Country in week one and his stocks strangely seem to have risen in the two weeks he has missed since with a quad injury. Hugh Goddard hasn’t really grabbed hold of a game yet and was blanketed on Sunday by Darcy Moore, who had the best of his two games. He has long arms, intelligence, athleticism, and will be Collingwood’s first-round father-son pick.

Isaac Heeney in action for Cardiff Black Diamond. Photo: Ryan Osland

Who will be the first player picked will depend, at this point, on which club has the pick. The Lions and Dogs could both do with a big forward but the Giants don’t need McCartin or Wright, which could bring Sam Durdin into the mix. The South Australian is just getting going after some injury problems but may appeal as a centre half-back who can play in many other spots. The dynamic Christian Petracca’s two games, as a powerful half-forward starting to roll through the middle, need to be considered, too, and Angus Brayshaw still looks the best of a midfield group that’s starting to grow.

Isaac Heeney is tied to Sydney as an Academy player, and Billy Stretch has had three very good games. Depending on where the Demons finish, he could be a third-round father-son pick. Liam Duggan, Corey Ellis, Jordan De Goey, Jayden Laverde, Touk Miller, Brayden Maynard and Jack Lonie among those starting to flesh out the midfield group. Edward Vickers-Willis, Caleb Marchbank and Kyle Langford have also started to request some attention, with Marchbank very good again on Sunday.

Tom Lamb, a hard-running but quirky forward, has balanced some of his best how-did-he-do-that football with losses of concentration that have recruiters unsure how high he’ll push up the order. He missed on Sunday with a minor groin problem but will be interesting to watch in the last few rounds as will Harry Dear and Zaine Cordy, father-son options for Hawthorn and the Western Bulldogs who keep showing bigger and longer glimpses.




Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...#ixzz343TIwgqC

[azabob]

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That's good then. I was a little worried about a difficult situation presenting itself. Hopefully we can get okay value in a later round. I've never seen the kid kick a ball, so was just wondering.

One last question, have any of you seen Jayden Foster play? Peter was a later bloomer (as was Billy Swan - thus Collingwood's faith in Dane) and I know Jayden's been given an extra TAC Cup year as an 18 year old. Any word on how he's shaping up?

BT, Webby asked you a question...

[GVGjr]

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That's good then. I was a little worried about a difficult situation presenting itself. Hopefully we can get okay value in a later round. I've never seen the kid kick a ball, so was just wondering.

One last question, have any of you seen Jayden Foster play? Peter was a later bloomer (as was Billy Swan - thus Collingwood's faith in Dane) and I know Jayden's been given an extra TAC Cup year as an 18 year old. Any word on how he's shaping up?

Mixed form for Foster. On the improve though