Early Trade Rumours 2023

[GVGjr]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Preface: All below information comes from another clubs recruiter + someone I know who works at the Dogs. Grain of salt, as always.

Thanks Vred, thats a lot to unpack so I'll focus on the Dogs

-B Smith - Club doesn't intent to let him go, he doesn't plan to go, it's all media bullshit because his having a down period.
-Tenglish - Real belief in the recruitment field that he'll be at WCE next season, my recruitment contact believes a ''Buddy like'' offer of several mill over 5 years has been put to him from WCE, alot of clubs waiting with baited breath to see what happens here. If the inevitable does happen it's expected the Dogs will make a play for Grundy and pick 1 from WCE. English will be the lynchpin in a fair few moves this off season it seems.
-Naughton not going anywhere, confident next contract will be his last

I just can't see Smith going anywhere else but there will be plenty of interest.

Regarding English it's another one that I find hard to see leaving at the end of this year and perhaps WC will have to wait another 12 months. Big contracts are one thing but playing at a club that is so weak at the moment is another. A multi year deal on big money is probably not something we can match.
Melbourne won't be easy to deal with for Grundy who's on big money in one way or the other and while you might get pick one from West Coast I suspect they would want both of our first rounders coming back. Deal of this sort of magnitude would really test our list management negotiation skills.

I'm confident that Naughton will stay with us.

-Buku has interest from Essendon
-Crozier is shopping around and not finding much interest
-Dogs are in Tomlinsons ear
-Liam Henry 99% will be a Dog next season
-bit of talk around Lachie Schultz wanting out of Freo for a Vic club as well.
-If Barass goes anywhere 99% its going to be to Sydney, Dogs are one of the interested clubs but seems like Sydney are the leaders in that race.

Buku will get some interest from other clubs and given there doesn't appear to be a lot of noise that we are in negotiations with him unless he has a couple of blinders it's going to be hard to see him staying on with us.

Crozier won't get any interest.

I suspect we are a couple of years late to be interested in Tomlinson and while he's got 2 outstanding defenders in front of him at Melbourne given he is now 30 and struggles with injuries this should be an easy pass for us.

I only have mild interest in Liam Henry. Yes he has ability but he probably plays his best football in a position we have enough cover for. It wouldn't be the worst trade if he was more of an effective forward.

Schultz has some mild appeal because he can play in a position we need some depth in

Barrass is talented but he misses a bit too much footy as far as I'm concerned.

Our club is going to war with the media behind the scenes, pulling back from all but mandatory media engagements, be prepared to see alot of hit pieces / bullshit written about us for a while to come, including bullshit about player movement / players not happy / Bevo is satan, this is a conscious decision made at board level. No idea why or what good it's going to do if you ask me.

I don't believe this to be true although we probably do have preferred media contacts.

[1eyedog]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Such cynicism in one so young. An impeccable source. A bloke who knows the father of a club employee, Cotton On is a Geelong sponsor and Smith's manager is Paul Connors, Geelong fanatic. Join the dots.

I first posted light heartedly and for a bit of a laugh. I've started joining dots, now.

My Brother's Sister's Cousin.

[Bornadog]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Thanks for the information Vred. I am hoping we can come up with a good deal to keep English.

[1eyedog]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Preface: All below information comes from another clubs recruiter + someone I know who works at the Dogs. Grain of salt, as always.

-B Smith - Club doesn't intent to let him go, he doesn't plan to go, it's all media bullshit because his having a down period.
-Tenglish - Real belief in the recruitment field that he'll be at WCE next season, my recruitment contact believes a ''Buddy like'' offer of several mill over 5 years has been put to him from WCE, alot of clubs waiting with baited breath to see what happens here. If the inevitable does happen it's expected the Dogs will make a play for Grundy and pick 1 from WCE. English will be the lynchpin in a fair few moves this off season it seems.
-Naughton not going anywhere, confident next contract will be his last
-Buku has interest from Essendon
-Crozier is shopping around and not finding much interest
-Dimma to GC is all but signed off, Dusty might just join him up there as well.
-Dogs are in Tomlinsons ear
-Liam Henry 99% will be a Dog next season
-bit of talk around Lachie Schultz wanting out of Freo for a Vic club as well.
-If Barass goes anywhere 99% its going to be to Sydney, Dogs are one of the interested clubs but seems like Sydney are the leaders in that race.
-Melbourne and Sydney are chasing Oscar Allen, trying to pry him out of WCE
-McKay asking way to much, wants years + 850k+, not much interest in him on our end.

Our club is going to war with the media behind the scenes, pulling back from all but mandatory media engagements, be prepared to see alot of hit pieces / bullshit written about us for a while to come, including bullshit about player movement / players not happy / Bevo is satan, this is a conscious decision made at board level. No idea why or what good it's going to do if you ask me.

Some great stuff in there, Ta. If English goes that changes things for me re. Grundy. We'll need his experience and he could ruck for 5 more years. Also great to hear that Naughton is imbedded in the club.

English would be mad not to take that sort of coin. Out of Naughts and English I'd still rather lose English. English is not a ruck and Naughton is a better forward.

If the Henry rumour is true I'd be absolutely stoked and amazed. Already a star. Since when do we prize out gun 21 year olds?

[Bornadog]

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Going for players like Tomlinson now scares me more than anything else mentioned.

I have never been impressed with him and he is now getting on. We don't need another 30 year old who no one wants to play their team.

[1eyedog]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

I have never been impressed with him and he is now getting on. We don't need another 30 year old who no one wants to play their team.

Agreed. Tomlinson looks ok as a third behind May and Lever.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

We literally get linked to Tomlinson every year.

Our list management strategy will be interesting. I don't mind adding a player like Henry who is young and very talented, albeit I am not convinced he's hard enough at the contest in a position where you need to go when it's your turn. Still - much prefer to take the plunge on a player like Henry than fringe players like Baker/TOB/Hannan/Tomlinson etc.

I'm honestly fine with trading English. He's a good player but nobody needs rucks to win the ball 20+ times - it's a luxury - I want a ruck who is a competitive physical beast who can intimidate and make those around him better.

[Axe Man]

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English is not a ruck

Oh come on. He might not be the ruck you want but he is most certainly a ruckman.

[GVGjr]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Any of this change if we lose tonight, miss finals or Bevo isn?t around next year?

In a very much worst case scenario I think many things would change if we lose to the Gliders and Bevo was to depart. Hopefully none of that comes true.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Any of this change if we lose tonight, miss finals or Bevo isn?t around next year?

Of course, it goes without saying. Let’s see what happens.

[Mofra]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Preface: All below information comes from another clubs recruiter + someone I know who works at the Dogs. Grain of salt, as always.

-B Smith - Club doesn't intent to let him go, he doesn't plan to go, it's all media bullshit because his having a down period.
-Tenglish - Real belief in the recruitment field that he'll be at WCE next season, my recruitment contact believes a ''Buddy like'' offer of several mill over 5 years has been put to him from WCE, alot of clubs waiting with baited breath to see what happens here. If the inevitable does happen it's expected the Dogs will make a play for Grundy and pick 1 from WCE. English will be the lynchpin in a fair few moves this off season it seems.
-Naughton not going anywhere, confident next contract will be his last
-Buku has interest from Essendon
-Crozier is shopping around and not finding much interest
-Dimma to GC is all but signed off, Dusty might just join him up there as well.
-Dogs are in Tomlinsons ear
-Liam Henry 99% will be a Dog next season
-bit of talk around Lachie Schultz wanting out of Freo for a Vic club as well.
-If Barass goes anywhere 99% its going to be to Sydney, Dogs are one of the interested clubs but seems like Sydney are the leaders in that race.
-Melbourne and Sydney are chasing Oscar Allen, trying to pry him out of WCE
-McKay asking way to much, wants years + 850k+, not much interest in him on our end.

Our club is going to war with the media behind the scenes, pulling back from all but mandatory media engagements, be prepared to see alot of hit pieces / bullshit written about us for a while to come, including bullshit about player movement / players not happy / Bevo is satan, this is a conscious decision made at board level. No idea why or what good it's going to do if you ask me.

Weirdly, I have heard every one of these rumours except for the Swans link to Allen.
FWIW Barrass apparently has a sister living in Sydney, so I can understand with a young family why he'd only consider Sydney and nowhere else.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

With some upcoming retirements too, and if their B&F goes, they will need to find a trade target to offer a lot of money to to make the minimum salary cap payment. I wonder who they could target with a monster offer?

[Bornadog]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

With some upcoming retirements too, and if their B&F goes, they will need to find a trade target to offer a lot of money to to make the minimum salary cap payment. I wonder who they could target with a monster offer?

Do you mean WC?

They are better off to load up on as many first rounds as possible and build from bottom up

[Mofra]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

With some upcoming retirements too, and if their B&F goes, they will need to find a trade target to offer a lot of money to to make the minimum salary cap payment. I wonder who they could target with a monster offer?

Retain Naughts, Darcy payrise. I assume we had cash earmarked for Doedee pre ACL.

I get the feeling we're going to be very active this year. Plus Dunkley is off the books...

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Do you mean WC?

They are better off to load up on as many first rounds as possible and build from bottom up

Sorry, WCE. They need to pay the minimum cap. No Barass and retirements means they’ve got to pay someone some big bucks to make the minimum cap.