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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11888

    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Originally posted by bornadog
    According to Tom Morris
    And he probably should be. We need to share the load better.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67308

      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

      from fox footy

      Melbourne has reportedly kicked off conversations with other clubs surrounding a Brodie Grundy trade.
      Grundy?s future has been a hot topic after falling out of favour in Simon Goodwin?s side last month despite only crossing to Melbourne this year following his trade from Collingwood.

      It comes with the 29-year old?s ruck partnership with Max Gawn failing to maximise both players? strengths ? and the Demons going 5-0 when Gawn is the No. 1 ruck compared to 10-7 alongside Grundy.

      Sydney, Port Adelaide and Geelong are believed to be the teams inquiring about Grundy.

      ?And Brodie Grundy has made it clear to all three of those clubs he has no intentions of playing as a forward ever again.
      ?Conversations are well and truly down the track. He?s out of Melbourne.?

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      West Coast has tabled a four-year offer to out-of-contract Lions youngster Deven Robertson in its bid to pry the West Australian out of Brisbane, reports SEN?s Tom Morris.

      The nephew of premiership Eagle Darren Glass, the 22-year old midfielder has previously drawn interest from West Coast, while earlier this year the Herald Sun revealed Victorian clubs were circling him.
      FFC: Established 1883

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      • Vred
        Senior Player
        • Nov 2018
        • 1294

        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

        Originally posted by Axe Man
        Why would English leave to another Victorian club? Surely it's unlikely any club would blow our offer out of the water?
        $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

        I'm (praying) that we're not gonna offer him the million dollars he thinks he deserves.
        [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 67308

          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

          Originally posted by Vred
          $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

          I'm (praying) that we're not gonna offer him the million dollars he thinks he deserves.
          Why do you care what he gets? If the market pays a million then we should meet it. English is a must keep.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15523

            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

            Originally posted by Vred
            $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

            I'm (praying) that we're not gonna offer him the million dollars he thinks he deserves.
            Agree.

            If the reports are correct in that he's currently on $700k he probably feels justified in wanting an increase of 30% given his output has improved... but paying him over $1mil is going to seriously limit our spend moving forward given, we have other marquee type players to satisfy.

            If he walks, he walks.

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            • Boots
              Rookie List
              • Nov 2020
              • 440

              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

              Originally posted by bornadog
              According to Tom Morris
              Deja Vu with Dunkley. What's the blockage to Smith playing midfield? Is it Treloar?

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              • DOG GOD
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jul 2007
                • 6595

                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                Originally posted by The Doctor
                Mitch McGovern is gettable

                Carlton prioritising Ben McKay

                according to Tom Browne Channel 7
                We I guess it?s in their contracts to never play against eachother, at least we know they?re not contracted to not play with eachother .
                I will never see #16 the same!!

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                • Axe Man
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 11318

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                  Originally posted by Vred
                  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

                  I'm (praying) that we're not gonna offer him the million dollars he thinks he deserves.
                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Agree.

                  If the reports are correct in that he's currently on $700k he probably feels justified in wanting an increase of 30% given his output has improved... but paying him over $1mil is going to seriously limit our spend moving forward given, we have other marquee type players to satisfy.

                  If he walks, he walks.
                  The Herald Sun have English currently on $725k-$825k. If we aren't offering $1 million I can't see it being far off. Are another Victorian clubs going to offer him significantly more than $1 million?

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                  • Vred
                    Senior Player
                    • Nov 2018
                    • 1294

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Why do you care what he gets? If the market pays a million then we should meet it. English is a must keep.
                    Because in his last two games his been beaten up by two sub 400k a year rucks?
                    I would rather that money be spent on speedier midfield options / defenders than English.

                    Just my two cents.
                    [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67308

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                      Originally posted by Vred
                      Because in his last two games his been beaten up by two sub 400k a year rucks?
                      I would rather that money be spent on speedier midfield options / defenders than English.

                      Just my two cents.
                      He has not been beaten up in the last two games. On Sunday 51 Hitouts, 11 HTA and 21 disposals and 9 marks is not being beaten up and I can't be bothered going back to Hawks game where he won the HTA.

                      Why can't we have English plus two speedy mids?
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13312

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        According to Tom Morris
                        Libba out meant his midfield minutes were inflated this week. Well, are we prepared to keep him and play him in the guts? Bont, Libb, Smith?

                        How do we think he went on Sunday?
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • lemmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6551

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                          Originally posted by Axe Man
                          The Herald Sun have English currently on $725k-$825k. If we aren't offering $1 million I can't see it being far off. Are another Victorian clubs going to offer him significantly more than $1 million?
                          I'm having a hard time believing that one too. Who has that kind of cash to throw around and is actually a decent destination to land at?

                          -Carlton - can't afford that
                          -Collingwood - can't afford that
                          -Essendon - I don't see it with Draper there. Would be Freo 2.0 with Jackson and Darcy
                          -Hawthorn - Might have the money, but doesn't seem to fit with how they build a list in terms of prioritising rucks or big contracts
                          -Melbourne - Can't afford that, have Gawn
                          -Geelong - Can't afford that
                          -North - Have the money, but is he going to go there and play in crap sides for the rest of his career?
                          -Richmond - Doesn't seem like the kind of move they'd make when all the talk is they're refreshing their list
                          -St Kilda - Probably the most likely one, but he's going to have to split ruck time with Rowan Marshall for the rest of his career, which is apparently not what he wants

                          I still think the most logical outcomes are he stays with us or takes big money at the Eagles.

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                          • Sedat
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 11450

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Why do you care what he gets? If the market pays a million then we should meet it. English is a must keep.
                            He's had a career best year and we have regressed as a club. We could not have gotten more out of Bont and Libba either, and we have had optimum output from Liam Jones (when not injured) as well.

                            It says to me that we cannot afford a no.1 ruck eating up $1m per year of the salary cap when this best ever season hasn't moved the needle on-field at all (not English's fault, could say the same about Bont and Libba to be fair), and it only reinforces that there are clear holes elsewhere on the ground/list that are holding us back.

                            None of this is English's problem - he should ask for every cent the market is willing to pay.
                            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                              Originally posted by Sedat
                              He's had a career best year and we have regressed as a club. We could not have gotten more out of Bont and Libba either, and we have had optimum output from Liam Jones (when not injured) as well.

                              It says to me that we cannot afford a no.1 ruck eating up $1m per year of the salary cap when this best ever season hasn't moved the needle on-field at all (not English's fault, could say the same about Bont and Libba to be fair), and it only reinforces that there are clear holes elsewhere on the ground/list that are holding us back.

                              None of this is English's problem - he should ask for every cent the market is willing to pay.
                              Yep. A million dollar ruck is a luxury this list can’t afford. It’s just that simple.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • EasternWest
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10036

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                He's had a career best year and we have regressed as a club. We could not have gotten more out of Bont and Libba either, and we have had optimum output from Liam Jones (when not injured) as well.

                                It says to me that we cannot afford a no.1 ruck eating up $1m per year of the salary cap when this best ever season hasn't moved the needle on-field at all (not English's fault, could say the same about Bont and Libba to be fair), and it only reinforces that there are clear holes elsewhere on the ground/list that are holding us back.

                                None of this is English's problem - he should ask for every cent the market is willing to pay.
                                Point of order: take English out and I don't think a lot changes. Take Bont out and well, I shudder at the thought.
                                "It's over. It's all over."

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