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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18967

    Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

    Originally posted by jeemak
    Was made all the more complicated and ugly because Kyle Cheney who had been a player under Bevo at Hawthorn let the cat out of the bag. From Wikipedia:



    At the end of the season, Cheney was issued with a warning by the AFL after unintentionally starting and facilitating an allegation that Western Bulldogs defender Michael Talia had shared sensitive information with his brother, Adelaide defender Daniel Talia, ahead of their two clubs meeting in the 2015 Second Elimination Final, an allegation the pair were cleared of

    Another stunning example of the AFL throwing a scapegoat under the bus. I mean, how Cheney ended up with a warning out of all this is beyond me.......well, it isn't really.
    We do seem to be an after thought in most AFL decisions.

    Crazy Cheney was warned, nice way to incentivise integrity.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21803

      Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

      Originally posted by Grantysghost
      We do seem to be an after thought in most AFL decisions.

      Crazy Cheney was warned, nice way to incentivise integrity.
      They disincentivised integrity so they could maintain integrity in wagering.

      If that's not entirely logical then I don't know what is.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 18967

        Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

        Originally posted by jeemak
        They disincentivised integrity so they could maintain integrity in wagering.

        If that's not entirely logical then I don't know what is.
        Clear as Steve Hocking's decision making algorithm.

        Have dream - > good dream - > many scores - > implement.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27654

          Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

          Originally posted by Grantysghost
          Clear as Steve Hocking's decision making algorithm.

          Have dream - > good dream - > many scores - > implement.
          More scores = more ads = bugger me sideways coaches worked out a way around it = Stupid Sexy Coaches!!!!
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 18004

            Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

            Trade period after losing a GF is just depressing.
            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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            • Ghost Dog
              WOOF Member
              • May 2010
              • 9404

              Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

              Originally posted by comrade
              Trade period after losing a GF is just depressing.
              TP After winning two cutthroat preliminaries. Can you look at it that way.
              The boys gave us pretty good entertainment after a very difficult road trip.
              Glass half full.
              You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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              • The Pie Man
                Coaching Staff
                • May 2008
                • 3498

                Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                Originally posted by comrade
                Trade period after losing a GF is just depressing.
                Yet I’m hooked

                How I yearn for the carefree days of October 2016
                Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                • divvydan
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1502

                  Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                  With Collingwood and Geelong having traded for Kreuger, it still leaves the Pies with around 2735pts. Talk that North won't take Daicos at 1 but I would expect Collingwood to go into the draft assuming they do. Means they have 335 pts or so to play with. Pick 46 is worth 331, so I can see them offering that for Lipinski now.

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                  • macca
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2352

                    Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                    Originally posted by divvydan
                    With Collingwood and Geelong having traded for Kreuger, it still leaves the Pies with around 2735pts. Talk that North won't take Daicos at 1 but I would expect Collingwood to go into the draft assuming they do. Means they have 335 pts or so to play with. Pick 46 is worth 331, so I can see them offering that for Lipinski now.
                    Is there anyone else the Pies are hoping to trade in?

                    I was hoping Lipinski deal be done first

                    My fear is if no one else they need to bring, no one else to trade for and it’s just a matter of accumulating picks for points in , once they have enough then he walks to the PSD.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66573

                      Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                      Originally posted by macca
                      Is there anyone else the Pies are hoping to trade in?

                      I was hoping Lipinski deal be done first

                      My fear is if no one else they need to bring, no one else to trade for and it’s just a matter of accumulating picks for points in , once they have enough then he walks to the PSD.
                      Talks with Pies have started on Lippa, but early days.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • SquirrelGrip
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1514

                        Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                        Mitch Cleary, newly of Channel 7 is reporting:

                        Four-way trade in the works involving Adel, Melb, STK, WB.

                        Will see Melb end up with the Dogs' pick 17. Dogs get more points to help match Sam Darcy. Adel get Melb's future 1st rounder. STK a stronger draft hand
                        "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 7708

                          Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                          I’m still somewhat gobsmacked we haven’t dealed for a ruck or at least even been linked to one.

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18967

                            Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                            Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                            Mitch Cleary, newly of Channel 7 is reporting:

                            Four-way trade in the works involving Adel, Melb, STK, WB.

                            Will see Melb end up with the Dogs' pick 17. Dogs get more points to help match Sam Darcy. Adel get Melb's future 1st rounder. STK a stronger draft hand
                            Bulldogs get picks 23, 44, 45
                            Melbourne get picks 17, 37, 47
                            Adelaide gets Melb future first round, 33, 75
                            St Kilda gets 62, 66, Adel future fourth
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • bulldogsthru&thru
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • May 2011
                              • 7708

                              Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                              Ok where’s BT to make sense of all this. Does this give us enough points for a bid on Darcy at #1?

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                Re: 2021 Trade Period Talk

                                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                                Ok where’s BT to make sense of all this. Does this give us enough points for a bid on Darcy at #1?
                                499 more points. Huge gain.

                                Depending on how many spots we have. We could trade 23 for two picks for more points.

                                1,524 DPs now

                                1,787 Points needed after Discount at Pick 3

                                Trading/splitting Pick 23, Young, Lippa, others will cover the points.

                                Might not have a late draft presence. Maybe brings Raak passed Pick 41 & MacPherson passed pick 52 more into frame. Perhaps rookie elevation between drafts.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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