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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11735

    Re: 2023 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by jazzadogs
    How can Port have only one draft pick? Isn't there a 3 pick minimum?
    They have one pick within the top 100. Technically they have as many picks as list spots though it'll just be after everyone else is done
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    • The Doctor
      Coaching Staff
      • Jan 2007
      • 3701

      Re: 2023 Draft Watch

      Potential Late Pick Gems

      LUKE LLOYD​
      A 193cm forward, Lloyd emerged as a draft bolter in the second half of the year. He was unsighted at the under-18 national championships, after missing selection for Vic Metro following an early-season quad injury. However, Lloyd kicked 19 goals in a game for school side De La Salle in May to put his potential on show. His marking is a feature of his game and he booted eight goals across his final three games of the season for Sandringham Dragons in the Coates Talent League, including two majors in a winning grand final.

      CALSHER DEAR​
      A 195cm forward, Dear had a solid second half of the season for Sandringham Dragons in the Coates Talent League to attract some late AFL attention. He played as a forward and back-up ruck for the Dragons and particularly caught the eye in the grand final as he logged 13 disposals, 14 hit-outs, three marks and kicked two goals. Dear’s mobility for a big man and ability to win the footy in the air and at ground level are his big strengths. He is eligible to join Hawthorn as a father-son, being the son of the late Paul Dear who played 123 games and won a premiership with the club in 1991.

      COOPER SIMPSON​
      Somewhat of a forgotten man, Simpson has slid down draft boards through little fault of his own, with an injury during the championships sidelining him for a critical part of the season. But his finish to year for the Dandenong Stingrays was a reminder of his x-factor as a midfielder, booting 2 goals from 20 disposals in his final outing. Simpson has a great sidestep in traffic and can break a game open with his penetrating kick, burst and ability to hit the scoreboard, averaging 21.5 disposals and just under a goal per game at Coates Talent League level. Had impressive results across the board at the combine and also received a VFL opportunity for Casey earlier in the year.

      WILL GRAHAM ​

      The 186cm midfielder has been the forgotten fourth Gold Coast Suns Academy member in this year’s draft pool. Three first-round draft locks from the Suns’ Academy – Jed Walter, Ethan Read and Jake Rogers – have been heavily talked about. However, Graham is a solid prospect in his own right. A potential top-40 pick, he can play as an inside midfielder or on a wing and has strong athletic traits which shone through at the recent national draft combine. Graham finished second in the 20m sprint, equal-second in the vertical jump and equal-third in the running vertical jump.

      CAIDEN CLEARY​
      Cleary was the fourth ranked player at the national championships, finishing second for tackles, fourth most disposals and equal fourth for contested possessions. Yet the hard-nosed Swans Academy prospect may not attract a bid inside the first two rounds of the draft. Cleary isn’t overly quick and there are knocks over his kicking, but he is one of the best inside ball-winners in the pool. The 182cm midfielder tackles like his life depends on it and his performances have stacked up against men, playing six games for Sydney at VFL level, with his five centre-clearances, 22 disposals and 102 ranking points against GWS Giants’ VFL side the highlight. He also can run all day, clocking the fifth best 2km trial time result at the draft combine. Cleary is expected to be matched by the Swans, but after their three acquisitions during the trade and free agency period, they may only take two or three picks in the national draft.

      WIL DAWSON​
      A versatile tall, Dawson measured 200.3cm at the national draft combine and is still growing. Gippsland Power required him in defence this year and he impressed in that position. However, Dawson is seen as a natural forward and back-up ruck, which is where he featured in his bottom-age season in 2022. While not a finished product just yet, there is plenty of excitement about what Dawson could become given his size, competitive nature, one-on-one contest wins and ability to be clean below his knees. He has met with just about every club, suggesting he will likely land somewhere.

      SHAUN MANNAGH ​
      Clubs after a plug and play mature-ager who can find the footy with ease and consistently hit the scoreboard, look no further. Mannagh put an exclamation point on his dominant VFL season with an incredible grand final performance, booting six goals and racking up 28 disposals to win the best-on-ground medal in Werribee’s loss to Gold Coast. You have to have make a significant impact to get drafted at 26, but Mannagh did just that at VFL level this season as a midfielder-forward, averaging 25 disposals, 7.8 score involvements, 5.6 tackles 4.7 clearances, 1.9 goals and 117 ranking points per game. Players who can break games open in the forward half while winning 20 disposals are hard to find, and Mannagh is well worth the punt.

      COOPER TREMBATH ​
      A 193cm tall, Trembath took to his first season in defence like a duck to water this year. He was overlooked for Vic Metro’s under-18 national championships squad, but starred in the middle and later part of the year for the Eastern Ranges as a strong-marking and intercepting backman. In a round 7 match in the Coates Talent League, Trembath racked up 17 disposals and 14 marks including eight intercept marks. He has quickly learnt when to go for his marks and when to spoil and how to position his body. Trembath can play on mid-sized forwards but also a little bit bigger and has drawn comparisons to Greater Western Sydney’s Connor Idun.

      MICHAEL RUDD​
      Rudd was equal fifth for goals per game at the national championships after an eye-catching carnival for Vic Country, but he was left off the national combine invite list. Club concerns centre on the medium forward’s speed, but what Rudd does have is a huge engine and strong hands overhead. Rudd showcased this at the state combine where he came equal-fifth in the 2km time trial (6:17). At 192cm, Rudd plays in a similar vein to Collingwood premiership forward Brody Mihocek and could prove to be a hidden gem for a club after a marking forward with relentless workrate.

      TAYLOR GOAD​
      The equal-tallest player at the national draft combine, Goad measured in at a towering 206.2cm. However, despite his size he is incredibly athletic and finished eighth in both the 20m sprint and vertical jump tests. Goad featured as a ruckman for South Australia in all four games of the under-18 national championships and continued his good form in the second half of the season for South Adelaide in the SANFL under-18s. He is agile, has good skills and is super competitive. Goad only began to focus on football again last year, having previously prioritised basketball.

      KANE MCAULIFFE ​
      A 187cm utility from North Adelaide, McAuliffe has some fans and showcased his incredible athletic abilities at the national draft combine. He finished third in the running vertical jump and fifth in both the vertical jump and the 20m sprint tests. He was also the first South Australian across the line in the 2km time trial, finishing in a time of 6min 26sec. A member of the AFL Academy this year, McAuliffe was restricted at times by a groin injury. However, the penetrating left-footer led the way in the midfield for South Australia at the national championships and impressed across seven SANFL reserves matches in the second half of the year.

      LOGAN EVANS​
      A strong start to the season saw Evans crack into the Norwood’s senior side from the get-go, tallying 18 disposals in a promising league debut. The rangy defender has spent time at all three levels this season but has played most of his footy in Norwood’s reserves, where he has averaged 15.2 disposals, 5.8 intercepts and 91 ranking points across 10 matches. His national championships could have been better, but as his national combine snub proves, Evans’ season has flown under the radar. The 189cm prospect reads the play well, has tidy skills and isn’t afraid to get his hands dirty defensively

      REECE TORRENT​
      A 184cm midfielder or rebounding halfback, Torrent had a solid national championships with Western Australia and made an even better finish to the season. He made his senior WAFL debut for Peel Thunder in the final round of the regular season, showing good composure and kicking a goal. He runs hard and can break the lines, can win his own ball when playing inside and hits targets when on the outside with his nice left foot. Torrent placed seventh in the agility test at the national draft combine, while also performing well in the 2km time trial with a time of 6min 24sec.

      KOEN SANCHEZ​
      May not have eye-catching traits of WA bolter Lance Collard, but Sanchez is a hardworking half-forward who is always keeping himself busy. Sanchez had a consistent national carnival where he averaged 17.8 disposals, 6.0 score involvments, 1.5 goals and 102 ranking points, with his three goals against Vic Metro the highlight. The East Fremantle prospect is very clean below his knees, has deft footskills and is a great decision maker. Sanchez has racked up large possession tallies as a midfielder at WAFL Colts level, suggesting he can pinch hit in the midfield at the next level. Sanchez has also made the step up to WAFL Reserves level and didn’t look out of place.

      BAILEY VAN DE HEUVEL​
      The dearth of key defenders in the AFL saw the 25-year-old burst onto the draft radar, with his invite to the state combine evidence of club interest. After crossing from Footscray to Geelong’s VFL side, Van De Heuvel went to anothett level at the back end of the season, averaging 18.2 disposals, 8.3 marks, 7.8 intercept possessions and 4.8 marks in his last five games. This was all while working as an electrician during the week. At 200cm, Van De Heuvel can win the ball back off the opposition with his reading of the play and overhead marking, and he is ultra competitive defensively. Geelong VFL coach Mark Corrigan views him as a mature-ager with significant upside given he has never been in a full-time program. Could he be the latest Cats VFL graduate to be promoted to Geelong list?

      SAM CLOHESY​
      The Fothergill-Round-Mitchell Medal has been a golden ticket into the AFL for mature-age talents, with Ethan Phillips (2022) the first recipient in the last 16 years who didn’t go on to get drafted. Clohesy, the older brother of 2022 Geelong draftee Ted, was recognised with the award after coming on in leaps and bounds this year alongside Mannagh for Werribee, averaging 16.8 disposalss and 5.6 marks. The rebounding defender uses the ball well by foot, is a good size at 189cm and is strong overhead. Clohesy has played local footy all over the country and this year was his first full season playing VFL football, giving him promising upside for a club after a defender. Several clubs have shown interest, with his 26-disposal preliminary final in particular attracting attention.

      Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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      • The Doctor
        Coaching Staff
        • Jan 2007
        • 3701

        Re: 2023 Draft Watch

        Dogs have been linked to Clohesy.

        I really like Will Dawson as a developing key defender. Simpson could be a steal if he slips late. Trembath for a rookie spot. He was influential in Eastern's charge to the Grand Final. He's a Dale Morris size. I also thought Goad acquitted himself well at the champs and surely we will bring in a ruckman. Mannagh deserves his chance. What he did for Werribee was nothing short of brilliant in their campaign this year. He would play round 1 if selected.

        Ive prattled on about Kade de la Rue a number of times. He is not on the list but is another. He would be that half forward/winger type that we lack.

        I think this is a draft that will produce quite a few late gems.
        Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 43915

          Re: 2023 Draft Watch

          Thanks Doc, based on some of his comments yesterday Power does seem to be more open to selecting players later in the draft.
          I think the club must have a good analyst or two and continually assessing our options. If the players we have identified are still available we might be open to selecting them. This should be a good draft for that.
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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14800

            Re: 2023 Draft Watch

            Originally posted by The Doctor
            Dogs have been linked to Clohesy.

            I really like Will Dawson as a developing key defender. Simpson could be a steal if he slips late. Trembath for a rookie spot. He was influential in Eastern's charge to the Grand Final. He's a Dale Morris size. I also thought Goad acquitted himself well at the champs and surely we will bring in a ruckman. Mannagh deserves his chance. What he did for Werribee was nothing short of brilliant in their campaign this year. He would play round 1 if selected.

            Ive prattled on about Kade de la Rue a number of times. He is not on the list but is another. He would be that half forward/winger type that we lack.

            I think this is a draft that will produce quite a few late gems.
            There were some reports we were one of the clubs that interviewed de la Rue.
            I still think McAuliffe is worth a shot. Injury hit year so production was down but seems to have the raw tools to develop in the AFL system, and tested very well at the combine.

            I'd look at Mannagh with a late/rookie pick as well. Mid depth and can play that running HF role if need be.
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            • kruder
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2011
              • 3724

              Re: 2023 Draft Watch

              I was watching a podcast on YouTube with Watson and Reid who seem good mates and Dyl Buckley asked the standard question which players do you model your game on? Watson answered Kosi,Paps and Cody which saw Reid jump in and said "You and Cody will fighting for spots next year". They way he reacted it does sound like we are interested that's for sure, he is being told his draft range is 4-7.

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              • The Underdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2007
                • 6745

                Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                Originally posted by kruder
                I was watching a podcast on YouTube with Watson and Reid who seem good mates and Dyl Buckley asked the standard question which players do you model your game on? Watson answered Kosi,Paps and Cody which saw Reid jump in and said "You and Cody will fighting for spots next year". They way he reacted it does sound like we are interested that's for sure, he is being told his draft range is 4-7.
                I’m not sure we need a Caleb Daniel sized version of Cody. Nothing against Watson, but I’m not sure you can get away with 2 sub 170cm players in the same team either.
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                • josie
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 4336

                  Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                  Originally posted by The Underdog
                  I’m not sure we need a Caleb Daniel sized version of Cody. Nothing against Watson, but I’m not sure you can get away with 2 sub 170cm players in the same team either.
                  That’s my fear, then you add in West and Garcia who are not as short but still on short side. However I have some confidence that our club will make a good selection given our good record of early draft selections.
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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11735

                    Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                    New Twoomey


                    No Lual, Croft at 13 and Watson at 5, Curtin at 6
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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11735

                      Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                      I'd take any of the named top 6 and be pretty happy though I'd be hoping Duursma can play more mid (very unlikely he falls though)
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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by hujsh
                        New Twoomey


                        No Lual, Croft at 13 and Watson at 5, Curtin at 6
                        So he has Croft sliding from 11 to 13. Good news.

                        Curtin & Croft would be tall if he fell to 6. May Lual get to 41.
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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11735

                          Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          So he has Croft sliding from 11 to 13. Good news.

                          Curtin & Croft would be tall if he fell to 6. May Lual get to 41.
                          Tall, yes, but a guy whose worst case is being a really good intercepting mobile defender and best case is a giant gun mid in the Bont/Cripps mold is nothing to turn your nose up at.
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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 43915

                            Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            So he has Croft sliding from 11 to 13. Good news.

                            Curtin & Croft would be tall if he fell to 6. May Lual get to 41.
                            If Croft drops just a bit further it opens up a whole lot of options. I'm hoping we take 4 picks in the draft.
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                            • lemmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6432

                              Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by The Doctor
                              I like the little I've seen of Goad - I'd be keen at a late or rookie pick. He's got a great leap, gets involved around stoppages and I'm pretty surprised by that 20-metre sprint time. Bit of a Toby Nankervis-style ruck that I think translates well to AFL level.

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by hujsh
                                Tall, yes, but a guy whose worst case is being a really good intercepting mobile defender and best case is a giant gun mid in the Bont/Cripps mold is nothing to turn your nose up at.
                                I’d be happy. If we could keep them, that Croft, Curtin, Buss & JOD for over a decade. While the forwardline has Naughton, Marra, Darcy, Cody & Clarke for a decade. Either end long term is set if we can keep them all.

                                Just need to smash out a few mids over the next few years plus Levi West in three years time.

                                I still think North trade up and Curtin goes at 3 or 4. Then Watson slides down to us.
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