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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11839

    Re: 2023 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by ledge
    Well you have certainly upped the anti comparing Bont to him , that’s special in itself. Bonts a freak.
    I mean he's just the first player that comes to mind who is tall and athletic. Naughton would work, Edd would work, Hunter would work. All different heights and all probably just as adept as 'picking the ball off the ground' because they have longer arms and torsos as well as basic flexibility despite being taller.
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44632

      Re: 2023 Draft Watch

      It's often been speculated on in a number of the phantom drafts that the main players that are likely to still be available for our pick 6 are Watson, Sanders and Curtin.

      If all 3 were available at our pick who would you selected and why? Perhaps rank them 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
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      • mjp
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7363

        Re: 2023 Draft Watch

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        It's often been speculated on in a number of the phantom drafts that the main players that are likely to still be available for our pick 6 are Watson, Sanders and Curtin.

        If all 3 were available at our pick who would you selected and why? Perhaps rank them 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
        It's curious isn't it. The draft is 'skinny' on talent but we will seemingly have our pick of a 'top 5' talent at pick 6.

        My rankings:

        1/. Curtin. He's 197cm and to me is a "can't miss" player. I cannot believe he's not going to be at West Coast.
        2/. Sanders. He's a genuine mid. Mids win games.
        3/. Watson. He's clever. And he can kick it - but he IS very small...

        My Rankings for US:
        1/. Sanders. We need to start adding some quality midfield depth to our squad. If he is the best available, we should take him.
        2/. Watson. You could argue he's a better fit (for 'NOW') than Sanders but having gone early on Weightman and Clarke in the past few seasons, selecting another small forward seems like flawed logic to me...it would almost be like selecting Busslinger with our first pick in 2022, then selecting Curtin in 2023! Which leads me to:
        3/. Curtin. He' awesome. He makes talent id easy. He's a monster, runs like a gazelle, catches it beautifully and kicks it well. But if we think he's a back - and he almost certainly will start there - then we just drafted the Buzz (not to mention JOD) within the past 12-months. We shouldn't pick him. Yep, it should all be about 'best available' blah blah early in the draft, but even so...
        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11839

          Re: 2023 Draft Watch

          I'm leaning towards Sanders. I like Curtin but the go home factor is a bit of a worry and Watson looks great though he seems like he'll remain 'only' a really good small forward but Sanders doesn't seem to have any real downside to me. Good disposal, strong contested game, can create space for himself or release his team mates into space, decent overhead IIRC. Looks a perfect replacement for Libba/Dunkley
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          • bulldogsthru&thru
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • May 2011
            • 7697

            Re: 2023 Draft Watch

            I was split on Sanders and Watson but I think am leaning towards Sanders based on needs.

            1. Sanders
            2. Watson
            3. Curtin

            I'd be happy with any. Curtin lure back home is what concerns me with him.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44632

              Re: 2023 Draft Watch

              Originally posted by mjp
              It's curious isn't it. The draft is 'skinny' on talent but we will seemingly have our pick of a 'top 5' talent at pick 6.

              My rankings:

              1/. Curtin. He's 197cm and to me is a "can't miss" player. I cannot believe he's not going to be at West Coast.
              2/. Sanders. He's a genuine mid. Mids win games.
              3/. Watson. He's clever. And he can kick it - but he IS very small...

              My Rankings for US:
              1/. Sanders. We need to start adding some quality midfield depth to our squad. If he is the best available, we should take him.
              2/. Watson. You could argue he's a better fit (for 'NOW') than Sanders but having gone early on Weightman and Clarke in the past few seasons, selecting another small forward seems like flawed logic to me...it would almost be like selecting Busslinger with our first pick in 2022, then selecting Curtin in 2023! Which leads me to:
              3/. Curtin. He' awesome. He makes talent id easy. He's a monster, runs like a gazelle, catches it beautifully and kicks it well. But if we think he's a back - and he almost certainly will start there - then we just drafted the Buzz (not to mention JOD) within the past 12-months. We shouldn't pick him. Yep, it should all be about 'best available' blah blah early in the draft, but even so...

              There are 3 ways to look at this:
              Best available and I would rate them Curtin, Sanders and then Watson
              List Structure and it's probably Watson, Sanders and then Curtin
              Football traits and I see it as Sanders, Curtin and then Watson

              The contested football trait is something that I think we need, all 3 of them are well above average there and Sanders would be the strongest of the 3 in my view.
              Athletically it's Curtin, Watson and then Sanders.
              Versatility it's Curtin by a long way and probably Sanders then Watson and that's mainly based on Watson's less than impressive end to the season when he was moved to a wing.

              While I think we would pick Watson if he's available I'd have it Sanders, Curtin and then Watson.
              Our midfield needs some help and with no first rounder next year (yet) I don't think we can go another 2 years without investing in some players now. If we miss Curtin when have some young tall forwards and defenders. Watson fits our needs now but we have Weightman, Clarke and Arty Jones plus West plays as a small forward so I think we can make do.

              The good part is there are probably no right or wrong answers.
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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10152

                Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                Out of those three, I’m going for Watson, Curtain, Sanders.

                We need more players who can kick goals. This is a hallmark of the Collingwood side as an example - lots of players who know how to convert and do so at any time under whatever pressure. Watson seems to have that ability, fills a need and adds a point of difference to our front half. If we think we’re close to a top 4 spot and a deep finals run (which despite recent evidence to the contrary, we probably should) then he’s the player I’d take first.

                Curtin is next. He sounds like the type of player clubs pass over as for some reason he’s perceived as good at everything and maybe a bit vanilla at this point… well, he’s tall, fast, kicks it well and could play anywhere. Sounds like a great player to add to the list in most circumstances. The fact that we’ve added Darcy, Jamarra, Buss, Croft early perhaps indicate we shouldn’t - but his versatility and midfield capability makes him a slightly different proposition.

                Sanders next. We need young, developing A grade midfielders absolutely. Is Sanders the man? Quite possibly. He has enough ability - good runner if not super quick, clean hands, neat enough disposal. I suppose I question how much upside he has and whether he’s the right player for our midfield currently or over the next few years? It could be a bit short sighted in my behalf and maybe I should be looking at him going he’s the Jacko replacement over 8-10 years rather than a difference maker in the short term.

                Fascinating draft for us.

                Regardless, we walk away with a quality player who should be a 200 gamer.
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                • The Doctor
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3702

                  Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                  Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                  Out of those three, I?m going for Watson, Curtain, Sanders.

                  We need more players who can kick goals. This is a hallmark of the Collingwood side as an example - lots of players who know how to convert and do so at any time under whatever pressure. Watson seems to have that ability, fills a need and adds a point of difference to our front half. If we think we?re close to a top 4 spot and a deep finals run (which despite recent evidence to the contrary, we probably should) then he?s the player I?d take first.

                  Curtin is next. He sounds like the type of player clubs pass over as for some reason he?s perceived as good at everything and maybe a bit vanilla at this point? well, he?s tall, fast, kicks it well and could play anywhere. Sounds like a great player to add to the list in most circumstances. The fact that we?ve added Darcy, Jamarra, Buss, Croft early perhaps indicate we shouldn?t - but his versatility and midfield capability makes him a slightly different proposition.

                  Sanders next. We need young, developing A grade midfielders absolutely. Is Sanders the man? Quite possibly. He has enough ability - good runner if not super quick, clean hands, neat enough disposal. I suppose I question how much upside he has and whether he?s the right player for our midfield currently or over the next few years? It could be a bit short sighted in my behalf and maybe I should be looking at him going he?s the Jacko replacement over 8-10 years rather than a difference maker in the short term.

                  Fascinating draft for us.

                  Regardless, we walk away with a quality player who should be a 200 gamer.
                  That sums up how I see it. Watson, Curtin, Sanders in that order. I'd love all 3 to be honest.

                  Watson - have banged on about him for almost 2 years now. Nothing has changed my mind on him. He's a freak, a matchwinner and I love freaking matchwinners. I have bemoaning our lack of small forwards for about 5 years now. We still lack quality finishers. What a killer forward line we would have with the Wizz in there.

                  Curtin - I'd take him in a heartbeat if Watson wasn't there. If you consider the key position defensive troops we have; Jones and Keath have most likely a year or two at most left. That leaves JOD, Buss & Gardner. Who is our alpha defender then? Curtin projects as the best of the lot.

                  Sanders - I agree with everyone really. Would love a young midfielder coming through and he is very very good.
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                  • The Doctor
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3702

                    Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                    Of the players at Footscray I think are worth considering for the upcoming drafts

                    In no particular order

                    Lachie Sullivan - Has done everything possible to get on an AFL list and deserves it.

                    Luke Goater - I feel he has AFL attributes. Can do some very skilful things like kick the ball to our player.

                    Ewan Macpherson - we lack grunt and he brings it. Flies the flag etc. Maybe not the most skilful but has a red hot crack. Should be on the list ahead of several others that currently have a spot. He was the one that dealt with Harmes and that other flog from Casey in the semi final. Turned the game our way.

                    My smoky - Caleb Lewis, a young key position player. Would like to see more of him but was impressed in his cameo's last season.

                    I don't see it with Chatfield as i mentioned before. Far to error prone and many of them unforced and costly. I thought Joel Garner might be a chance a year back but don't think he has come on enough since to demand a spot.
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66697

                      Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                      Originally posted by The Doctor
                      Of the players at Footscray I think are worth considering for the upcoming drafts

                      Ewan Macpherson - we lack grunt and he brings it. Flies the flag etc. Maybe not the most skilful but has a red hot crack. Should be on the list ahead of several others that currently have a spot. He was the one that dealt with Harmes and that other flog from Casey in the semi final. Turned the game our way.

                      .
                      Ewan gets alot of the ball but agree his skills let him down. If he was more serious about his footy and trained hard, he could make it
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                      • josie
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 4482

                        Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                        Ewan to my eye is a ball butcher. Tough as. But no thanks. We need skill and determination combined. His kicks for goals are almost at Honeychurch/J. Grant level of bad.
                        Josie :)

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66697

                          Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                          Originally posted by josie
                          Ewan to my eye is a ball butcher. Tough as. But no thanks. We need skill and determination combined. His kicks for goals are almost at Honeychurch/J. Grant level of bad.
                          Of the scoring shots, Jarrad was at 59% - not too bad. As for Honeychurch, kicked more Behinds than Goals.
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                          • josie
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 4482

                            Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Of the scoring shots, Jarrad was at 59% - not too bad. As for Honeychurch, kicked more Behinds than Goals.
                            Thanks. Surprises me. Perhaps I’m haunted by the image of Jarrad running into goal mouth and missing the unmissable (cannot recall if only the once).

                            Dahlhaus & Hunter kicking for goal was head in hands stuff.
                            Josie :)

                            Our day will come
                            And we'll have everything.
                            We'll share the joy
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                            • Uninformed
                              Draftee
                              • Jan 2023
                              • 818

                              Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                              [QUOTE=GVGjr;875269]It's often been speculated on in a number of the phantom drafts that the main players that are likely to still be available for our pick 6 are Watson, Sanders and Curtin.
                              Last edited by Uninformed; 07-11-2023, 11:18 PM.

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                              • Uninformed
                                Draftee
                                • Jan 2023
                                • 818

                                Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                It's often been speculated on in a number of the phantom drafts that the main players that are likely to still be available for our pick 6 are Watson, Sanders and Curtin.

                                If all 3 were available at our pick who would you selected and why? Perhaps rank them 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
                                May we have all three please? (I am asking very nicely)

                                If not, I am going 1. The Colonel, 2. The Wizard and 3. Draw the Curtin.

                                Disclaimer: Not based on any reasoning, research or inside info. It is 'just the vibe, your honour'

                                We can't lose though with this pick. A stroke of genius moving up and grabbing it.

                                Sorry for the dual posts. I thought I was editing?

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