2023 Draft Watch

[mjp]

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Pastures new: Farming on hold as WA talent eyes the big time

By Nathan Schmook

See...for me, a kid like Tholstrup should be a top 10 selection...

I just cannot see how he misses. He plays footy 'like a man' and whilst that doesn't necessarily help him put up numbers at u18's level, he just finds a way to impact on games/contests at senior level.

Plus, his personality goes right to the bone - there is nothing skin deep about the hair cut and ridiculous shades...it's all him.

[GVGjr]

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See...for me, a kid like Tholstrup should be a top 10 selection...

I just cannot see how he misses. He plays footy 'like a man' and whilst that doesn't necessarily help him put up numbers at u18's level, he just finds a way to impact on games/contests at senior level.

Plus, his personality goes right to the bone - there is nothing skin deep about the hair cut and ridiculous shades...it's all him.

He's a terrific talent and senior football ready with his strength and 2nd effort traits. He's better than where a lot of the phantom drafts have him falling. He also tested well at the combine.

[GVGjr]

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On the Gettable podcast a club needs based mock draft between Cal Twomey and Kevin Sheehan

1 - West Coast - Harley Reid
2 - Gold Coast - Jed Walter (Matched bid)
3 - North - Daniel Curtin
4 - North - Colby McKercher
5 - Hawks - Zane Duursma
6 - Bulldogs - Nick Watson
7 - Gold Coast - Ethan Read (Matched bid)
8 - Demons - Connor O'Sullivan
9 - GWS - Nate Caddy
10 - Cats - Ryley Sanders
11 - Bombers - Caleb Windsor
12 - Crows - James Leake
13 - Demons - Darcy Wilson
14 - Bulldogs - Jordan Croft (Matched bid)
15 - Swans - Riley Hardeman
16 - Gold Coast - Jake Rogers (Matched bid)
17 - Saints - Koltyn Tholstrup
18 - Hawks - Will McCabe (Matched bid)
19 - Crows - Harry DeMattia
20 - North - Will Green

[mjp]

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On the Gettable podcast a club needs based mock draft between Cal Twomey and Kevin Sheehan

LOL. Have Shifter and Twomey watched LESS football per minute spent at a footy game than any other two people in the history of the universe?

To be fair, they would have talked to a lot of people who all told them these guys were good.

[hujsh]

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Speaking of Twoomey appparently he's said Dogs won't be drafting Curtin if available. So I guess we value Watson and Sanders higher

[GVGjr]

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Speaking of Twoomey appparently he's said Dogs won't be drafting Curtin if available. So I guess we value Watson and Sanders higher

I suspect that opinion was more about the taller players we already have and given we are bringing in Croft.
North should pick Curtin at pick 4 but I'm not sure they will.

[GVGjr]

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Without considering club needs and draft positioning etc this is how I rate the top 20 players

1 - Jed Walter
2 - Harley Reid
3 - Colby McKercher
4 - Daniel Curtin
5 - Zane Duursma
6 - Ryley Sanders
7 - Nate Caddy
8 - Ethan Read
9 - Nick Watson
10 - Caleb Windsor
11 - Jake Rogers
12 - Koltyn Tholstrup
13 - Connor O'Sullivan
14 - Darcy Wilson
15 - James Leake
16 - Jordan Croft
17 - Riley Hardeman
18 - Ollie Murphy
19 - Harry DeMattia
20 - Lance Collard

Walter before Reid might be the contentious pick but the question for me is if Reid's strengths in the junior comp will transition that well in the senior level.

[ledge]

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See...for me, a kid like Tholstrup should be a top 10 selection...

I just cannot see how he misses. He plays footy 'like a man' and whilst that doesn't necessarily help him put up numbers at u18's level, he just finds a way to impact on games/contests at senior level.

Plus, his personality goes right to the bone - there is nothing skin deep about the hair cut and ridiculous shades...it's all him.

Sounds like another Fyfe and we know how good he is.
Country boy where football isn’t his life but will take it because it’s available any anything he does is 100%
Home factor a problem maybe.

[Mofra]

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Speaking of Twoomey appparently he's said Dogs won't be drafting Curtin if available. So I guess we value Watson and Sanders higher

Did he say why? It could all come down to the "go home" factor at a time we're trying to tie down our list.

[Mofra]

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Without considering club needs and draft positioning etc this is how I rate the top 20 players

1 - Jed Walter
2 - Harley Reid
3 - Colby McKercher
4 - Daniel Curtin
5 - Zane Duursma
6 - Ryley Sanders
7 - Nate Caddy
8 - Ethan Read
9 - Nick Watson
10 - Caleb Windsor
11 - Jake Rogers
12 - Koltyn Tholstrup
13 - Connor O'Sullivan
14 - Darcy Wilson
15 - James Leake
16 - Jordan Croft
17 - Riley Hardeman
18 - Ollie Murphy
19 - Harry DeMattia
20 - Lance Collard


Walter before Reid might be the contentious pick but the question for me is if Reid's strengths in the junior comp will transition that well in the senior level.

I actually rate Walter ahead of Reid as well.
Jesse Hogan with a very good defensive side to his game is what I saw when he played. Gun already and one of those rare KPFs that should play early

[GVGjr]

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Did he say why? It could all come down to the "go home" factor at a time we're trying to tie down our list.

I think the inference made was more about the structure of how many taller players we already have and the fact that we are also bringing in Croft.

Sure there would be some players with a higher go home factor but that's why clubs do multiple interviews and screening. Once players feel at home at a club they shouldn't feel the need to head home.

[GVGjr]

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I actually rate Walter ahead of Reid as well.
Jesse Hogan with a very good defensive side to his game is what I saw when he played. Gun already and one of those rare KPFs that should play early

The way Reid has been talked up as a generational player just seems a bit over the top. Walter is a big dynamic forward who should be able to kick goals.

[Go_Dogs]

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Thanks for that list G. Always interesting to trawl back through these things in 5+ years time and see how many you got right and how many were stinkers. It seems quite a lot of consistency across the first 9/10 selections this year and then a tad more variation post that.

[mjp]

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WA boys - my draft order.

1/. Tholstrup. Plays footy 'like a man'. Inside outside game, strong overhead, hyper-competitive.
2/. Curtin. Tall, runs, marks it well. Kicks it ok (left footer). Versatile. What's not to like??
3/. Mitch Edwards. He's a monster and he WILL compete hard. Tried to carry his footy team this year...leadership through effort - just what you want in a ruck.
4/. Xavier Walsh. Big, strong and aggressive. 100% a brilliant kick of the footy...when he gets it he either hits a target or kicks a goal. Criminally under-rated - getting injured then suspended then concussed was hardly his fault.
5/. Ryley Hardeman. A runner. Has real 120m plus efforts in his game. I think he is a bit shaky by foot but good become a genuine a-grader.
6/. Koen Sanchez. What is he? That's the question...'CLEVER' is the answer. Can he become a genuine ball winner? If he does he could be top tier.
7/. Aiden O'Driscoll. Without doubt the fastest I have ever coached. Faster than Bobby Hill. He is electric. Didn't have the year he should of in 2023 but showed some great signs on grand final day.
8/. Clay Hall. He's BIG. He is just that prototypical BIG mid...played some good senior footy this year (along with a few others in this list - Hardeman, Tholstrup, Curtin). I worry he's not clean enough but think he'll get there.
9/. Ashton Ferrera. He's small...but he can RUN. Won promotion to the seniors late in the season and immediately started getting 25+ touches per week as an outside mid...that's not NUTHIN! Sure, his team was battling but I don't get the lack of love.
10/. Lance Collard. I have no idea what to do here. He could be anything or nothing. I don't like the risk reward of him early in the draft...once they start calling the rookies, well...that's when I would call his name.

[Bornadog]

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WA boys - my draft order.

1/. Tholstrup. Plays footy 'like a man'. Inside outside game, strong overhead, hyper-competitive.
2/. Curtin. Tall, runs, marks it well. Kicks it ok (left footer). Versatile. What's not to like??
3/. Mitch Edwards. He's a monster and he WILL compete hard. Tried to carry his footy team this year...leadership through effort - just what you want in a ruck.
4/. Xavier Walsh. Big, strong and aggressive. 100% a brilliant kick of the footy...when he gets it he either hits a target or kicks a goal. Criminally under-rated - getting injured then suspended then concussed was hardly his fault.
5/. Ryley Hardeman. A runner. Has real 120m plus efforts in his game. I think he is a bit shaky by foot but good become a genuine a-grader.
6/. Koen Sanchez. What is he? That's the question...'CLEVER' is the answer. Can he become a genuine ball winner? If he does he could be top tier.
7/. Aiden O'Driscoll. Without doubt the fastest I have ever coached. Faster than Bobby Hill. He is electric. Didn't have the year he should of in 2023 but showed some great signs on grand final day.
8/. Clay Hall. He's BIG. He is just that prototypical BIG mid...played some good senior footy this year (along with a few others in this list - Hardeman, Tholstrup, Curtin). I worry he's not clean enough but think he'll get there.
9/. Ashton Ferrera. He's small...but he can RUN. Won promotion to the seniors late in the season and immediately started getting 25+ touches per week as an outside mid...that's not NUTHIN! Sure, his team was battling but I don't get the lack of love.
10/. Lance Collard. I have no idea what to do here. He could be anything or nothing. I don't like the risk reward of him early in the draft...once they start calling the rookies, well...that's when I would call his name.

Thanks for the insight. Is the list a ranking or random