Trade Rumours 2025

[Virgin-Dog]

Wait - that's over two million a year. WTAF. That would be a club killer if it went wrong. I will believe it when I see it. I mean this guy is an amazing talent, he's just one guy though.

Tom Boyd’s $1 million per year was at a time that cap was $10.07 million, so about 10% of it.

Harley Reid getting $2.08 million per year when the cap is $18.3 million is about 11.4% of the cap.

It’s more or less the same as the Boyd contract, for a more proven player than what we got. I’m doubtful it would pay off, but the numbers don’t seem so crazy in the context of the increased salary cap

[bulldogsthru&thru]

The contract length is a risk in itself. What if it doesn't work out? What if Harley goes off the rails? He's not entirely proven yet.

[doggies ftw]

Tom Boyd’s $1 million per year was at a time that cap was $10.07 million, so about 10% of it.

Harley Reid getting $2.08 million per year when the cap is $18.3 million is about 11.4% of the cap.

It’s more or less the same as the Boyd contract, for a more proven player than what we got. I’m doubtful it would pay off, but the numbers don’t seem so crazy in the context of the increased salary cap

Yeah in the scenario in which Nas walks, it’s very similar to Griffen walking out on us (even worse really), it was a line in the sand moment for us and it heavily contributed to us winning a flag. I can see why Saints would try to pull something like that - they’d need to give their fans some sort of hope, can’t just continue to get walked over some times

[Grantysghost]

Tom Boyd’s $1 million per year was at a time that cap was $10.07 million, so about 10% of it.

Harley Reid getting $2.08 million per year when the cap is $18.3 million is about 11.4% of the cap.

It’s more or less the same as the Boyd contract, for a more proven player than what we got. I’m doubtful it would pay off, but the numbers don’t seem so crazy in the context of the increased salary cap

That's good perspective thanks VDog. In hindsight you could easily argue the Boyd deal was a failure. What are the odds a player plays his best in the most important four weeks ever !

Of course we'd never change history, however that deal was probably a dud considering Boyd's overall output (in isolation).

[Grantysghost]

The contract length is a risk in itself. What if it doesn't work out? What if Harley goes off the rails? He's not entirely proven yet.

Yep, that's a long time to lock up that amount of your cap.

I get five years. Thats the max for mine.

Imagine if it goes south early and you have to cover his wage or part of it for 5+years.

[Bornadog]

That's good perspective thanks VDog. In hindsight you could easily argue the Boyd deal was a failure. What are the odds a player plays his best in the most important four weeks ever !

Of course we'd never change history, however that deal was probably a dud considering Boyd's overall output (in isolation).

I would do it again if it led to a premiership. The best thing the club ever did.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

I would do it again if it led to a premiership. The best thing the club ever did.

It was 100% the right move at the time. Re-energised the supporter base and gave us hope.

And like you said, Boyd was instrumental in the 2016 premiership run. Post 2016 he obviously suffered from back and mental health issues which set him back a long way and ultimately ended his career. I honestly think he'd have been a great player for us over his career if it weren't for his injuries. The 2nd ruck who can go forward was a desperate need of ours post 2016.

[kickit2Koly]

If we had to choose between either Wilkie & Eramus or Butters and Silvangi which way do people lean?
I think my preference would be Butters and SOS but its a difficult one.

[Bornadog]

If we had to choose between either Wilkie & Eramus or Butters and Silvangi which way do people lean?
I think my preference would be Butters and SOS but its a difficult one.

I would go same as you. I think Silvagni is more versatile.

[Critter]

Absolutely Butters, the man is a superstar. And, as BAD said, Silvagni is the more versatile.

[Happy Days]

I would choose Butters and no one over Erasmus and Wilkie.

[azabob]

That's good perspective thanks VDog. In hindsight you could easily argue the Boyd deal was a failure. What are the odds a player plays his best in the most important four weeks ever !

Of course we'd never change history, however that deal was probably a dud considering Boyd's overall output (in isolation).

Go wash your mouth out.

[Grantysghost]

Go wash your mouth out.

Ha.

How many times out of 100 does that deal not bear fruit is my point.
Yes, history tells us it was life changing for us but the odds of that happening were so minute it was good luck rather than good planning. It was forced on us, we'd not have done it without the end of 2014 saga.

So for that Saints to go this hard, I'm worried for them.

[soupman]

Saints are getting desperate

What are they meant to do though?

They have a good enough list to be in the mid rung at all times, which means no great draft picks. Made significantly worse with FS and Academy stuff leapfrogging them in the order. Unsure how much their academy could be improved, but I'm sure they have been trying but unable to reap any benefits.

Not a good enough side to attract talent that could boost them, no one is moving there for success.

Not a big enough club to be able to sell the idea of big games or big off field deals. Easily down the bottom with North in the least they can offer.

Need to be a draft and develop club, but this is hard, and they have struggled to do this well, despite surely putting a lot of effort into fixing it. I think we take it for granted that the Bulldogs are so good at this (maybe the best in the league).

So the only way they can improve their list is to throw cash around and offer big deals, they have incrementally improved themselves no where, need to land a big talent which hopefully brings more in. NAS might leave but I expect its more for family/SA stuff than it is anything Saints can actually control. If they keep him and get someone else in (TDK I don't think is that but could be, Reid is something) maybe that helps makes them more attractive to other players.


Thy are screwed, the smaller Melbourne clubs have such a narrow path to success and such an easy descent into oblivion, again we have climbed out of that bottom rung that the Saints and North find themselves in through being exceptionally good at developing and retaining talent (when was the last first rounder we had that wasn't at least a very good player, Howard?). This is realistically one of the few plays they actually have at meaningful improvement.

[Bornadog]

Update on Silvagni

In addition to meeting with Essendon and Collingwood, Jack Silvagni has also met with the Western Bulldogs.
He met with senior Dogs officials last week as he weighs up his free agency options.