AFL targets Essendon Royalty

[LostDoggy]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

The thing that riles me is Bomber Thompson saying they are 'Kind, very kind and generous' to accept responsibility for their part. Let's all bow to Essendon and thank them for being such good sports about this.

Yeah, that did piss me off too.

[Sedat]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

Not going to happen Sedat, and there is one overriding reason for this: The paperwork to ping individuals is simply not there. This makes it impossible to bring individual charges.

Team-based sanctions can be imposed if there are more than 2 individuals involved in suspected doping

[Ghost Dog]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

Team-based sanctions can be imposed if there are more than 2 individuals involved in suspected doping

I would be very happy to be proved wrong on this. I want them cooked as much as anyone.

[LostDoggy]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

Hot off the press…

The AFL will today impose a deadline upon Essendon which would force the club to accept the deal before it or front the commission to contest the charges and risk a harsher punishment.
Should the Bombers fail to agree to a resolution at AFL headquarters on Day Two of the protracted talks, the proposed sanctions — which seemed close to being settled late on Monday — would be taken off the table with the club facing more severe penalties.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...#ixzz2d817qxbQ

[westdog54]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

Hot off the press…

It is in no way in Essendon's interest to let this go to a contested hearing. If that happens the onus will essentially be on Essendon to Disprove the AFL's evidence, or challenge its legitimacy through the courts, both of which would be highly unlikely to succeed given the support of the other clubs to the AFL.

[Bornadog]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

If I was the AFL and EFC and Hird take the AFL to the Supreme Court then I would say to them, ok, you do that, but next year this is what will happen:

* No ANZAC day Clash

* No friday nights

* No free to air

* play as many possible games interstate.

Plus all the penalties and sanctions will stand.

[Mofra]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

It is in no way in Essendon's interest to let this go to a contested hearing. If that happens the onus will essentially be on Essendon to Disprove the AFL's evidence, or challenge its legitimacy through the courts, both of which would be highly unlikely to succeed given the support of the other clubs to the AFL.

... and if they're contesting the fine as well, the extra $500k or so in legal fees should prove a fair disincentive.
Was it up to $1.2m in legal fees alone Essendon had paid up to last week? That doesn't include PR fees.

[Remi Moses]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

For Christ sake AFL you run the game impose a penalty!!

[Remi Moses]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

The thing that riles me is Bomber Thompson saying they are 'Kind, very kind and generous' to accept responsibility for their part. Let's all bow to Essendon and thank them for being such good sports about this.

Also using the defense of we're only 10% culpable is grating me.
Whatever percentage, you are guilty assume responsibility stop blame shifting!!
We're not drug cheats, yet we actually don't know what the harm will be to the players??
Give it a rest

[LostDoggy]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

If I was the AFL and EFC and Hird take the AFL to the Supreme Court then I would say to them, ok, you do that, but next year this is what will happen:

* No ANZAC day Clash

* No friday nights

* No free to air

* play as many possible games interstate.

Plus all the penalties and sanctions will stand.

Blackmail, they'd cry. Couldn't do it. Well, could do it, but couldn't come out and say that's the reason.

What I don't understand in all of this, is that Hird is allegedly the roadblock to resolving the issue, and its having an effect on finals, right?

So why doesn't the AFL charge Essendon and Hird separately? Remove the individuals from the charges and just deal with the club for now, so you can boot them from the finals, then you've got all summer to sort out the other muppets. I, for one, don't give two shits if Hird coaches right up until the day before Round 1, as long as once he's banned he stays banned.

[Bornadog]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

Blackmail, they'd cry. Couldn't do it. Well, could do it, but couldn't come out and say that's the reason.

What I don't understand in all of this, is that Hird is allegedly the roadblock to resolving the issue, and its having an effect on finals, right?

So why doesn't the AFL charge Essendon and Hird separately? Remove the individuals from the charges and just deal with the club for now, so you can boot them from the finals, then you've got all summer to sort out the other muppets. I, for one, don't give two shits if Hird coaches right up until the day before Round 1, as long as once he's banned he stays banned.

Blackmail - that's what Hird is doing right now.

They should have just charged the club and listed the personnel and said EFC you deal with the individuals. The penalties should be high but can be lowered if those individuals are sacked.

[LostDoggy]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

Blackmail - that's what Hird is doing right now.

They should have just charged the club and listed the personnel and said EFC you deal with the individuals. The penalties should be high but can be lowered if those individuals are sacked.

Is a bit more complex than that. The AFL might run the game but they still need to follow the law.

[LostDoggy]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

It's done. Banned from finals, lost first two rounds draft picks in 2013 and round 1, 2014 and a $2 million fine. Round 2 of draft in 2013 might still be in the cards.

[Topdog]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

hold on that is still just suspected at the moment.

[GVGjr]

Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

The reports circulating at the moment is that the AFL have taken a stronger stance than some in the media indicated.

Loss of draft picks, points lost for both the AFL and VFL teams, fine, suspension for Hird and a few other penalties seem to be heading in the right direction.