Father/Son Watch

[bulldogtragic]

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While I get your point, ideally the one who should be learning from Lobb is Darcy but to balance things out he might have to play in the back line. In time we might have some juggling to do to manage Naughton, Marra, Darcy and Croft's time up forward.
If the coach decides that 3 talls doesn't quite work in his plans we really will have some challenges.

Croft's attitude is a positive and he even he has a bit of swagger. I wonder if there could be a way of having Josh Bruce work with him.

How good is that a problem to have. Too many top 10 KPP’s!

Hopefully the best defender goes back there and cements a spot. I’m not as concerned about who. I’d like to see everyone but Marra trialled there and see who is the most dangerous big intercepting defender. In an ideal world two of them were handy enough and could play swing roles. I guess we will find out in time.

[ledge]

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How good is that a problem to have. Too many top 10 KPP’s!

Hopefully the best defender goes back there and cements a spot. I’m not as concerned about who. I’d like to see everyone but Marra trialled there and see who is the most dangerous big intercepting defender. In an ideal world two of them were handy enough and could play swing roles. I guess we will find out in time.

Jamarra is the one I would never put back , he is a genuine leading high marking forward . He would be completely lost and get smashed being led to the ball by his opponent.
Darcy and JOD, Jones with Richards is the best chance I see of intercept marking.

[GVGjr]

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Jamarra is the one I would never put back , he is a genuine leading high marking forward . He would be completely lost and get smashed being led to the ball by his opponent.
Darcy and JOD, Jones with Richards is the best chance I see of intercept marking.

I agree with this but ironically Marra was a very good field kick in the match sims I saw.

[azabob]

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While I get your point, ideally the one who should be learning from Lobb is Darcy but to balance things out he might have to play in the back line. In time we might have some juggling to do to manage Naughton, Marra, Darcy and Croft's time up forward.
If the coach decides that 3 talls doesn't quite work in his plans we really will have some challenges.

Croft's attitude is a positive and he even he has a bit of swagger. I wonder if there could be a way of having Josh Bruce work with him.

Bruce is still working with our aflW team. Hopefully we have some soft cap for Bruce to be around the men even in a part time capacity. From what you see Bruce, Naughton, Marra all get along extremely well.

[Bornadog]

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Bruce is still working with our aflW team. Hopefully we have some soft cap for Bruce to be around the men even in a part time capacity. From what you see Bruce, Naughton, Marra all get along extremely well.

From Yesterdays training:

[ledge]

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Bruce is still working with our aflW team. Hopefully we have some soft cap for Bruce to be around the men even in a part time capacity. From what you see Bruce, Naughton, Marra all get along extremely well.

Going on the AFLW teams performance in the first game I’m not sure anything he has coached has worked .

[GVGjr]

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Rookie Central has Croft at pick #14 with their latest rankings.
If that held true then it's value from a points perspective is 1,161 x by the 20% discount then it's 928 points we would need to cover in matching the bid which compares to between picks 19 and 20 on the draft value index.

[bulldogtragic]

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Rookie Central has Croft at pick #14 with their latest rankings.
If that held true then it's value from a points perspective is 1,161 x by the 20% discount then it's 928 points we would need to cover in matching the bid which compares to between picks 19 and 20 on the draft value index.

Seems to settling into the 10-15 range. Hopefully he can slide, but I suppose that won’t change much but for some points. Just hope he turns out to be a steal in the long term.

[GVGjr]

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Seems to settling into the 10-15 range. Hopefully he can slide, but I suppose that won’t change much but for some points. Just hope he turns out to be a steal in the long term.

If the deal for an early pick doesn't go through then where he eventually gets bid on matters but the more important factor will always be on how he develops as a player for us.

We have picks 10 and 17 at the moment and they will move back a bit when bids arrive for other players.
If we were to take these picks into the draft if we could get one player selected before matching the Croft bid we would still have a pick in the 2nd round to select another player and that could be a decent position for us.

[bulldogtragic]

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If the deal for an early pick doesn't go through then where he eventually gets bid on matters but the more important factor will always be on how he develops as a player for us.

We have picks 10 and 17 at the moment and they will move back a bit when bids arrive for other players.
If we were to take these picks into the draft if we could get one player selected before matching the Croft bid we would still have a pick in the 2nd round to select another player and that could be a decent position for us.

We just need to get up the order ASAP. If we for some reason can?t, if we got our first out then I?d look at a few options:

Trade the 17 for a F1 (much more preferable but delays our refresh/rebuild)
Trade 17 & 4th for Melbourne?s 24 & 30 (Sydney pick for Grundy?) - Then trade 24 for a F2 - That would get Croft for 30 & 36 alone and give us points left over for Lual if he slides passed Pick 40

Ideally we can do a deal quickly to go up the order. Then just work out getting enough points from Khamis, Sweet & points trading to grab Croft at say about 11-12 with any slide hedging if Lual slides. I?d hate to go into the draft holding our existing firsts.

[mjp]

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We just need to get up the order ASAP. If we for some reason can?t, if we got our first out then I?d look at a few options:

Trade the 17 for a F1 (much more preferable but delays our refresh/rebuild)
Trade 17 & 4th for Melbourne?s 24 & 30 (Sydney pick for Grundy?) - Then trade 24 for a F2 - That would get Croft for 30 & 36 alone and give us points left over for Lual if he slides passed Pick 40

Ideally we can do a deal quickly to go up the order. Then just work out getting enough points from Khamis, Sweet & points trading to grab Croft at say about 11-12 with any slide hedging if Lual slides. I?d hate to go into the draft holding our existing firsts.

BT - 'cos I'm a numpty on this stuff, could you tell me a way we could:

- Use our first pick (#10) and a Future 1st (back ourselves) to move UP to 4.
- Use our second pick (#17) and maybe a later pick either this year or next to get 2x picks 'around' 30 + a 3rd rounder?

I guess this is sort of similar to what you have outlined above now I've read it again...

[bulldogtragic]

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BT - 'cos I'm a numpty on this stuff, could you tell me a way we could:

- Use our first pick (#10) and a Future 1st (back ourselves) to move UP to 4.
- Use our second pick (#17) and maybe a later pick either this year or next to get 2x picks 'around' 30 + a 3rd rounder?

I guess this is sort of similar to what you have outlined above now I've read it again...

That could only work if GCS wanted to do it, and as they lose draft points I’m not sure why they’d want that (10 & F1). If we added pick 36 they almost break even. If they got enough points elsewhere they might want to bank our F1. But difficult to see it this far out, until they had a surplus of points if say Hollands & Chol racked up good points.

We could look at the trade 17 for two seconds. If Sydney don’t use 30 on Grundy I could see something there, on the proviso Croft isn’t coming to us. If he is, put 17 on the market to highest expected future first pick or club with two firsts. I think a club not expected to rise, say WCE, if they offered their F2 (hopefully pick 19) and other F2 for this years Pick 17-18. That could be handy too. WCE then have three picks inside 20, including number one. So maybe that could work.

Ideally we just get that GCS Pick 4, I’m even happy enough to downgrade the F1 to their F2 if we can get a good young player and maybe a role/depth player.

Unless the GCS thing happens quickly, we are going to need to have so many different scenarios in our mind/s.

[Bulldog4life]

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Love to be a fly on the wall when the Crofts meet the club before deciding whether to nominate us or not.

[GVGjr]

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Love to be a fly on the wall when the Crofts meet the club before deciding whether to nominate us or not.

I'd make a fairly quick discussion.
We see a long term future for you but you may not play a lot of senior footy in the first two years but we see you Naughton and Marra as our 3 key forwards for the future.
We are going to make a significant investment in you in terms of draft picks and development

If that doesn't get him interested I'm not that fussed.

[lemmon]

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Media is reporting today that North may get pick 11 as part of their assistance package which would put them into the box seat to trade down for pick 4 (package 11 with 14 that they hold from Port).

If that did happen and GCS were to put 11 on the market for further picks, would we adjust and look at flipping our pick 17 into 11? That'd give us 10 and 11 in the draft and a good crack at getting two very good players in.

It'd also be a bold move for a club to bid on Croft in the top 10 and force us to eat those picks. I'd be willing to take that gamble and either miss out on Croft or get three talented kids in.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts BT.