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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15447

    Re: Father/Son Watch

    Originally posted by Grantysghost
    I kmow we analyse the team at a micro (seasonal) level, however if you look at things in a macro sense it's never been a better time to be a Dogs fan.

    I mean Marra....

    We used to celebrate making finals.
    When was this?

    In the 1980's?

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18959

      Re: Father/Son Watch

      Originally posted by Mantis
      When was this?

      In the 1980's?
      Pre 97

      I like your angry shtick btw Mantis.

      I have two distinct dogs periods.

      Pre and post 97.

      So 80-97 we made ...... finals 85, 92 ,94,95 ?

      Post 97,98,99,00, 08,09,10, 15,16,19,20,21,22 ...

      Thats from memory someone correct me.
      Last edited by Grantysghost; 21-07-2023, 03:02 PM.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66703

        Re: Father/Son Watch

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        I know we analyse the team at a micro (seasonal) level, however if you look at things in a macro sense it's never been a better time to be a Dogs fan.

        I mean Marra....

        We used to celebrate making finals.
        I love going to a game to see Marra, Naughty, Bont, Libba etc, but it hurts when we lose
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18959

          Re: Father/Son Watch

          Originally posted by bornadog
          I love going to a game to see Marra, Naughty, Bont, Libba etc, but it hurts when we lose
          Yeah of course.

          Sometimes I just like to take a step back and think about where we are at on and off the field compared to what I grew up with.

          I mean I'm going to an Essendon household tonight having won 8 of the last 9 against them....! Dream stuff.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15305

            Re: Father/Son Watch

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Add in some mids in this draft and looking strong from 2025
            Might be an issue if Croft is bid on early and our first round draft picks are chewed up. That is why I'm not 100% sold on Croft.
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15305

              Re: Father/Son Watch

              Originally posted by bornadog
              ruck, FB, CHB, CHF, FF, plus depth. Never have enough talls
              Only if they are all forwards!
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 18959

                Re: Father/Son Watch

                Originally posted by azabob
                Might be an issue if Croft is bid on early and our first round draft picks are chewed up. That is why I'm not 100% sold on Croft.
                I don't want him unless 20 +

                There I've said it.

                We need to grab a mid with our first pick.
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66703

                  Re: Father/Son Watch

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  Only if they are all forwards!
                  Yeah true
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Bulldog Joe
                    Premiership Moderator
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5567

                    Re: Father/Son Watch

                    I am still keen on making Naughton a mid or winger.

                    He has the agility to do it and would allow the other talls to be talls.
                    Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                    • bulldogsthru&thru
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • May 2011
                      • 7697

                      Re: Father/Son Watch

                      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                      I am still keen on making Naughton a mid or winger.

                      He has the agility to do it and would allow the other talls to be talls.
                      He's agile for a tall forward but not even close for a mid/winger.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        Re: Father/Son Watch

                        Twomey on Croft:

                        Twomey spoke of Jordan Croft, the son of former Western Bulldogs defender Matthew, who is a 201cm key position player and could add to the recent draft additions of Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and another father-son in Sam Darcy.

                        “He’s really exciting,” Twomey said of Croft Jnr.

                        “The thing I like about Jordan Croft is, yes he’s 201cm, but he’s really fleet-footed, he’s quick and agile, and you need to be that as a key forward in today’s game.

                        “He’s got a little bit of growth to go in terms of his body development. He’ll obviously get time to do that at the Dogs, it’s not going to be a rush to get him in.

                        “Amazing isn’t it. Three out of four years you have a 200cm player that you have first call on.”
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          Re: Father/Son Watch

                          Zero Hanger on Croft:

                          Jordan Croft (Western Bulldogs)
                          Son of: Matthew Croft (186 games for Footscray/Western Bulldogs)
                          Height: 200cm
                          Position: Key Forward
                          Club: Maribyrnong Park

                          The Bulldogs are already home to a plethora of tall options in their attack, with former top 10 draft picks Darcy, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and Aaron Naughton already calling Whitten Oval home.

                          Croft is set to join that crop at the end of this year as the Dogs look to continue their rich history of attaining talented father-son selections. What Croft's arrival will mean for the likes of Darcy and Naughton remains to be seen, with the talented duo able to play in defence and are part of an already brimming group of tall forwards.

                          The Dogs are likely to be weighing up their assets for this year's trade period as well, with the Footscray-based club currently holding two first-round selections (their own and Brisbane's) and could have a bid land in the top 20 for Croft.

                          The teenager booted 14 goals in his last four games for the Calder Cannons prior to the National Championships, where he also had an impact for Vic Metro across three matches - culminating with a three-goal haul against South Australia.

                          Speaking on Zero Hanger TV, Alvaro said Croft has emerged as a top 15 prospect for this year's draft thanks to a strong start to his Talent League campaign and impressive National Championships carnival.

                          "With the Vic Metro rotation he only played three games, which was a bit bizarre to me, but he's definitely a top-15 prospect," Alvaro said.

                          "Should set the Bulldogs back a pretty penny, especially after they bid so highly on Jaspa Fletcher last year. That then might come back to bite them.

                          "But he's a great player. I love his aggression and athleticism, you can see him chasing down players, using his closing speed, and then hitting players hard. He attacks the ball in the air really nicely.

                          "We talk about upside, he's definitely got it. The way he moves, the way he attacks the ball and what he could be is really what you're looking at. He's one of those talls that's definitely in the first-round conversation."
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            Re: Father/Son Watch

                            Rookie Me KPP Edition on Croft:

                            TALL TALENT TIME

                            Jordan Croft (Calder Cannons/Vic Metro)

                            Key Forward | 200cm | 80kg | 12/05/2005

                            An athletic key forward who can also pinch-hit in the ruck, Croft is another first round prospect tied to the Western Bulldogs. The son of Matthew is a raw type but has massive upside, possessing serious pace at 200cm and an unbelievable leap. Perhaps most importantly, he attacks the ball hard and lays aggressive tackles to showcase the kind of mongrel key position players need. Croft is also working on his goal kicking and has booted 15.8 in six Talent League games this season.

                            Draft Range: 10-15
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • bulldogsthru&thru
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • May 2011
                              • 7697

                              Re: Father/Son Watch

                              So he's going to eat up one of our firsts?

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                Re: Father/Son Watch

                                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                                So he's going to eat up one of our firsts?
                                No. We will need to trade them. Either:

                                A. Both first together for a top 8 pick, perhaps GCS
                                B. For young gun players

                                Then use our last four picks to use draft points to get him super cheaply.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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