2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

[comrade]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

No other players request a trade from their side?

The only thing I care about is getting in a ruckman that can play 70-80% a game for 20+ games a year. If Sam Power does nothing else this post season but secure that, I'll be happy.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

The only thing I care about is getting in a ruckman that can play 70-80% a game for 20+ games a year. If Sam Power does nothing else this post season but secure that, I'll be happy.

My bad. Do you think Richards, Young, Garcia, Weightman etc ask for a trade out?

[comrade]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

My bad. Do you think Richards, Young, Garcia, Weightman etc ask for a trade out?

Young is the most likely but I really hope we retain in. Still a baby in KP terms and I think there's an AFL footballer in him.

The other 3 I hope we're prioritising as re-signings and expect them all to stay. Richards is probably the biggest risk of leaving but it's pretty obvious Bevo loves him.

[Happy Days]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

Possibly as little as 90 days to delistings and the trade period opens. So time is running down for a long list - 17 players - of unsigned players:

Ed Richards - re-sign
Cody Weightman - re-sign
Riley Garcia - re-sign
Lewis Young - trade (walks)
Taylor Duryea - re-sign
Pat Lipinski - trade
Zaine Cordy - re-sign
Anthony Scott - re-sign
Louis Butler - delist
Mitch Wallis - delist/trade
Lin Jong - delist
Stefan Martin - delist
Buku Khamis (Rookie) - retain
Will Hayes (Rookie) - delist
Ben Cavarra (Rookie) - delist
Roarke Smith (Rookie) - delist
Jordan Sweet (Rookie) - delist


So what do you think happens between now and 90 days?

Mine above. We have to get another ruck or two, as I have no faith in Stef Martin’s body or Jordon Sweet generally for 2022.

I’d obviously prefer to keep Young and probably Lipinski but somehow don’t think it’ll be up to us. Only hesitation on the other changes is how weak our draft hand is going to be after the Treloar trade and Darcy bid.

[The Doctor]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

Richards or Weightman are our best trade options to bring in a ruckman of any reasonable quality.

[comrade]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

Richards or Weightman are our best trade options to bring in a ruckman of any reasonable quality.

Trading Weightman would just leave another hole we'd have to fill. I think Lipinski + some future pick trading should be able to secure us a ruckman. I'm already resigned to going into a points deficit and I don't really mind doing that for one year. We're primed to win a flag and need to do everything possible to bring in the missing pieces while the opportunity is upon us.

[Mantis]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

Richards or Weightman are our best trade options to bring in a ruckman of any reasonable quality.

Not sure we want to go down the path to forcefully trade out our high end talent, especially in areas of need... different story if the players are requesting the trade .

[DOG GOD]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

Half back flankers are our surplus, so for mine, if Richards can get us that ready made ruckman who can take the #1 mantle and allow Tim to play his best position, then I’d do it. No other player would be of any value.

I think Lewis will ask for a trade and I don’t blame him one bit. I think it’s disgusting the way the MC have handled him since his debut.
Butler gone. Jong gone unfortunately.
Wallis has no position in our team anymore.

[The Doctor]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

Not sure we want to go down the path to forcefully trade out our high end talent, especially in areas of need... different story if the players are requesting the trade .

I'm not saying we will or should. Just that is what it would probably cost from the listed of uncontracted players. I doubt anyone else on the list would have enough currency.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

My thoughts above

Agree with what you've indicated. The only difference I have is Rourke Smith. Did a great job when he came into the side, but yet again has made way. Could someone else do his job? Are Scott and O'Neil not ahead of him as the bits and pieces players? If so Rourke is surplus and it wouldn't surprise me to see him delisted.

[jeemak]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

Why do we think Butler will get delisted? Is it simply a matter of spots or do poster think he's no good?

[Bornadog]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

Why do we think Butler will get delisted? Is it simply a matter of spots or do poster think he's no good?

I think Butler has huge potential. I wouldn't be delisting him at all.

[Hotdog60]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

If I was doing the mandatory 3 delistings it would be R.Smith (Although he has been serviceable but he's a known quantity and is most likely reached his peak), B. Hayes (Other players offer a bit more in the position he plays) and B.Cavarra (Same as Hayes and as a mature player he needed to really make the most of it when he played.

[Mantis]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

Why do we think Butler will get delisted? Is it simply a matter of spots or do poster think he's no good?

He’s very much in the keep category for me… he’s being developed to play a role we have very few of and is consistently receiving positive reviews for his performances at the lower level.

Given the fact we are reluctant to turn the list over I can’t see how he gets the chop.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

If I was doing the mandatory 3 delistings it would be R.Smith (Although he has been serviceable but he's a known quantity and is most likely reached his peak), B. Hayes (Other players offer a bit more in the position he plays) and B.Cavarra (Same as Hayes and as a mature player he needed to really make the most of it when he played.

Hayes and Cavarra are currently rookie listed as is Roarke Smith.

To have the 3 spots we need 3 others that are on the main list.