2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

[hujsh]

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Ever since Liam Ryan I've liked to keep a watch on the state league stats to see if there's any super talented goal kickers running around.

One guy I'd be interested to get MJP's (or anyone else's) thoughts on is Tyler Keitel from West Perth. He's kicked like 65 goals from 15 games this year, looks good getting off the bus (196cm 91kgs) and is only 25.

How or why is he not in the AFL already? Should he be in the AFL next year? With us?

Should have been drafted when he was 18. Simply a bloody good player.

Looks like he used to play as a key defender in u-18s. Was he always a forward for the most part or is this a recent reinvention?

[Mofra]

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How or why is he not in the AFL already? Should he be in the AFL next year? With us?

Every year his name is discussed.
Might be the next Podsiadly - finally gets (another) chance a few years later than he should.

[azabob]

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Soooooo, the folks at Ch9 are getting more batshit by the minute. I honestly don't know how we could have shown more faith in English as a ruck over his career. We're also on record as wanting at least two if not three tall targets forward, whilst English played ruck minutes on Sunday.

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Either last week or the week before I half raised the idea of trading English.

Honestly if he isn't a genuine ruckman why wouldn't we look to trade him if it resulted us in getting a genuine first ruck or key defender?

[jeemak]

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Either last week or the week before I half raised the idea of trading English.

Honestly if he isn't a genuine ruckman why wouldn't we look to trade him if it resulted us in getting a genuine first ruck or key defender?

Because a competent forward ruck is probably the hardest position to trade for, and he is a more than competent example of a forward ruck - and should only get better.

[Happy Days]

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Every year his name is discussed.
Might be the next Podsiadly - finally gets (another) chance a few years later than he should.

Yes, but he’s never been on pace for a ton before.

I’m actually not really feeling the need to replace Bruce but this guy seems to have real talent.

[EasternWest]

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I’m actually not really feeling the need to replace Bruce but this guy seems to have real talent.

Happy Days of 2020 wouldn't believe future him would write this.

[jeemak]

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Happy Days of 2020 wouldn't believe future him would write this.

It's really grown up of him.

[Dry Rot]

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Dumb question, how many open list spots do we currently have?

Jong gone = 1

Martin gone = 2

Lloyd gone = ??? has someone taken his senior spot?

Assuming Lippa and Wally go, then that is 4 or 5 spots?

[bulldogtragic]

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Dumb question, how many open list spots do we currently have?

Jong gone = 1

Martine gone = 2

Lloyd gone = ??? has someone taken his senior spot?

Assuming Lippa and Wally go, then that is 4 or 5 spots?

Officially 1, in Jong. Lloyd was replaced with Scott. We can restructure the list to find two more spots when it suits us.

1 plus any other retirements or trades. With two up our sleves if we want.

[Go_Dogs]

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If we go all the way this year with the Hybrids, do we skip out on a #1 ruck BT?

[bulldogtragic]

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If we go all the way this year with the Hybrids, do we skip out on a #1 ruck BT?

Nah. Darcy is the mega hybrid. Did forward craft is very good as a KPF. But his defence games this year have good watchers thinking he’s a gun KPD. Plus he’s big enough to ruck with a lifelong ruck coach.

[Hotdog60]

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I read an article today that both Lippa and Wally have contracts in front of them and they are testing the waters to see what's out there.

I found the article and put it in the contract thread.

[boydogs]

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I know we're without Bruce next year but if English if so bad in the ruck that we play him forward, play Young ahead of him in the ruck and need to trade another ruck in, why not make English the trade bait? We've got pretty limited currency this year

English for Pittonet?

[josie]

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Stranger things have happened boydogs. English has delayed re-signing. I think club wants to keep him but will be interesting trade season for sure. Depends a bit on if Young re-signs with us.

[soupman]

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I get English is not what we need as a ruck but he is so unique as what he is. Would trading him actually make us better?

I mean the only positions we need a game changing improvement in are ruck and key defence. But the players we need to fill those roles are not superstars.

The ruckman we need has to be not a liability around the ground and able to be competitive at a minimum in the ruck. The key defender we need doesn't even have to be good at anything aside from actually defending and providing us with structure. Those players exist and are not even expensive to acquire. We are a chance of getting both from the DFA pool.