2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

Mason Cox told to explore his options.
A freebie with two years left - would be better than no ruck cover.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dep...4a41f0c32ce5dd

I'm still in the yes camp as I was last year.

Better ruck than English, Sweet, Hannan, Dunkley etc.

Up forward, he can play deep and allow Naughton to push further up the ground (better kick than Naughton too).

[Mofra]

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I'm still in the yes camp as I was last year.

Better ruck than English, Sweet, Hannan, Dunkley etc.

Up forward, he can play deep and allow Naughton to push further up the ground (better kick than Naughton too).

Interesting that Collingwood fans describe his tapwork as "underrated".
His forte is his athleticism for his height (211cm) and I think he'd probably play to that strength better in the ruck than as a forward.

To the naked eye, Timmy is ahead of him as a forward buy Cox would be a better ruck. I do think there are better (and more expensive) options but he has to be on the shortlist at least.

[comrade]

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I’m coming round to Cox as an option. We’d need to be convinced he can take the #1 ruck role though.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Interesting that Collingwood fans describe his tapwork as "underrated".
His forte is his athleticism for his height (211cm) and I think he'd probably play to that strength better in the ruck than as a forward.

To the naked eye, Timmy is ahead of him as a forward buy Cox would be a better ruck. I do think there are better (and more expensive) options but he has to be on the shortlist at least.

Agreed.

He's a low cost option that we should have on our list in the case that a deal for a better ruck cannot be struck.

I’m coming round to Cox as an option. We’d need to be convinced he can take the #1 ruck role though.

Yeah it remains to be seen. I think he's better than what we have, so if we can't find a better ruck, he's what I'd go after.

There doesn't appear to be many attractive options flying around which makes it a little harder. Missing out on Ryder and Hickey has been bad management.

[Mofra]

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Yeah it remains to be seen. I think he's better than what we have, so if we can't find a better ruck, he's what I'd go after.

There doesn't appear to be many attractive options flying around which makes it a little harder. Missing out on Ryder and Hickey has been bad management.

Given the past few years and the rule changes, rucks need to be good around the ground and in the centre. It has reduced the ability of coaches to hide rucks who had one or more glaring weaknesses (e.g. 2016 when we used the third man up rule more than any other club in the competition).

[comrade]

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The other option is just persist with Lewis Young. Train him with the rucks all pre season. I can’t think of another 200cm guy who’s easily gettable that is mobile around the ground and also strong in the air.

Lacks the aggression and physicality of a #1 ruck though.

[soupman]

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Lewis Young ins the ruck reminds me of when Andrejs Everitt briefly found a role there.

A non natural ruck who is a touch undersized for the role and had a decent run of games there but by no means is someone you want to persist with in that position.

No thanks.

[comrade]

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Lewis Young ins the ruck reminds me of when Andrejs Everitt briefly found a role there.

A non natural ruck who is a touch undersized for the role and had a decent run of games there but by no means is someone you want to persist with in that position.

No thanks.

Yeah, probably right. It’s slim pickings out there.

[SquirrelGrip]

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Interesting that Collingwood fans describe his tapwork as "underrated".
His forte is his athleticism for his height (211cm) and I think he'd probably play to that strength better in the ruck than as a forward.

To the naked eye, Timmy is ahead of him as a forward buy Cox would be a better ruck. I do think there are better (and more expensive) options but he has to be on the shortlist at least.

I agree. He's not perfect but he'd be a positive influence around the group. And whilst he's not a natural footballer, he's a good athlete and bloody big (still the tallest in the AFL).

[GVGjr]

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Lewis Young ins the ruck reminds me of when Andrejs Everitt briefly found a role there.

A non natural ruck who is a touch undersized for the role and had a decent run of games there but by no means is someone you want to persist with in that position.

No thanks.

I think you are underestimating him just a bit. Yes he's a work in progress but I think he has the scope to be a decent back up option

[soupman]

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I think you are underestimating him just a bit. Yes he's a work in progress but I think he has the scope to be a decent back up option

Yeah in a pinch he's fine but as an actual plan going forward?

We're talking about finding a first ruck no? Young is pretty uninspiring as a plan A.

[GVGjr]

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Yeah in a pinch he's fine but as an actual plan going forward?

We're talking about finding a first ruck no? Young is pretty uninspiring as a plan A.

He's had no continuity but if we can find him a proper coach I think he could improve. Not sure if he is a chance to make it as a first ruck but I'd like to see him developed in that area.

[Ghost Dog]

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Without VFL to judge player performance it is going to be a hard year to make decisions.
I'd like to see Mason Cox taking ruck duties. I think we could get him very cheaply.

[Mofra]

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Lewis Young ins the ruck reminds me of when Andrejs Everitt briefly found a role there.

A non natural ruck who is a touch undersized for the role and had a decent run of games there but by no means is someone you want to persist with in that position.

No thanks.

I'm not sure he's undersized - he's now taller than Stef Martin.
He's a useful utility but I still want a genuine ruck at trade time. He's only 22 so still has time on his side.

[Mofra]

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Another state level kid we might be keeping an eye on - Sam Skinner.

Really unlucky with injury in his time at Brissie and he was on our draft radar (we may have even selected him with the Bailey Williams pick if he was available).
Playing SANFL KPD