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  • chef
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 14617

    Re: 2023 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    I’d be happy. If we could keep them, that Croft, Curtin, Buss & JOD for over a decade. While the forwardline has Naughton, Marra, Darcy, Cody & Clarke for a decade. Either end long term is set if we can keep them all.

    Just need to smash out a few mids over the next few years plus Levi West in three years time.

    I still think North trade up and Curtin goes at 3 or 4. Then Watson slides down to us.
    Is Jaxon Cooney a mid too?
    The curse is dead.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      Re: 2023 Draft Watch

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      If Croft drops just a bit further it opens up a whole lot of options. I'm hoping we take 4 picks in the draft.
      Maybe opens up Pick 56 to use which could come into the very late 40’s. Then we’d want Lual to slide passed that or live trade it out for a very late F2 or F3 if there’s enough points for Lual after that. I thought with his high finish in the time trial he’d rise not fall, but may he keep sliding now that clubs know they can’t get him and focus on players they can get.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: 2023 Draft Watch

        Originally posted by chef
        Is Jaxon Cooney a mid too?
        It looks to be determined. From what I can tell (on limited public info) he’s being used as a utility type in various positions with a good size about him. Once he hits the Coates League proper we will see if he moves into a pure mid. From what I can tell he already seems close to 6ft so he could grow to the 190cm range. So he might be a fwd/def utility, or a big bodied mid. If he can become a bona fide mid that would be awesome. It sounds like he reads the play very well. Mof might have some more on him from his contacts.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11841

          Re: 2023 Draft Watch

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          I?d be happy. If we could keep them, that Croft, Curtin, Buss & JOD for over a decade. While the forwardline has Naughton, Marra, Darcy, Cody & Clarke for a decade. Either end long term is set if we can keep them all.

          Just need to smash out a few mids over the next few years plus Levi West in three years time.

          I still think North trade up and Curtin goes at 3 or 4. Then Watson slides down to us.
          Yeah tend to agree on North/WCE. Hawks getting Ginnivan probably makes it more likely they take McKercher too unless North take him then they probably go Duursma. Either way it's Watson that falls to 6
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: 2023 Draft Watch

            Originally posted by hujsh
            Yeah tend to agree on North/WCE. Hawks getting Ginnivan probably makes it more likely they take McKercher too unless North take him then they probably go Duursma. Either way it's Watson that falls to 6
            Looks that way.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11841

              Re: 2023 Draft Watch

              First go at a mock draft I've seen

              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • bulldogsthru&thru
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • May 2011
                • 7697

                Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                Originally posted by hujsh
                It would seem Watson or Sanders are the most likely options for us. I'm not sure who I'd prefer.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44634

                  Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                  Just did some white boarding of how the draft might look from our perspective. A phantom draft of sorts for giggles and making some assumptions on how picks might shuffle around when other bids are matched.

                  1 - West Coast - Harley Reid
                  No surprise there, the consensus #1 pick selected

                  2 - North Melbourne - Zane Duursma
                  A great mid sized forward who can also contribute in the midfield.

                  3 - Gold Coast Suns - Jed Walter
                  North's bid on Walter is matched by the Suns losing picks 24, 26 and 27 getting a pick in the early 50's back.

                  4 - North Melbourne - Colby McKercher
                  The best midfielder, a real ball winner

                  5 - Hawthorn - Nick Watson
                  After missing out on their preferred selection in Duursma, the Hawks take the best small forward.

                  6 - Western Bulldogs - Ryley Sanders
                  A combo inside/outside midfielder and capable goal kicker when forward.

                  7 - Gold Coast - Ethan Read
                  Suns match the Dee's bid losing picks 29, 33 and 53

                  8 - Melbourne - Daniel Curtin
                  The most versatile tall in the draft

                  9 - GWS - Nate Caddy
                  An excellent mid to tall forward.

                  10 - Geelong - Connor O'Sullivan
                  They lose one key defender during the trade period and add another at the draft.

                  11 - Essendon - Caleb Windsor
                  The winger tested brilliantly at the Combine

                  12 - Adelaide - James Leake
                  One of the most versatile mid sized players available.

                  13 - Western Bulldogs - Jordon Croft
                  Dogs match Melbournes bid losing picks 45, 47 and 50
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • soupman
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5113

                    Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                    Would North not use pick 2 to bid on Walter? If you're gonna nominate him to make the Suns pay wouldn't you use your higher pick and make them pay more? It's the same outcome either way.
                    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                      Hawks want Ginnivan & Watson? Wouldn’t Curtin address a need, or are the rumours he might get homesick got some weight to them?

                      Would we pass on Curtin?
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44634

                        Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by soupman
                        Would North not use pick 2 to bid on Walter? If you're gonna nominate him to make the Suns pay wouldn't you use your higher pick and make them pay more? It's the same outcome either way.
                        I thought that they might consider at least being able to sell the message that they got the player they rated as the 2nd best to their members plus I wonder if they might have done a bit of a gentlemans agree with the Suns with some of the previous pick swaps.
                        Either way, GC have the capacity to match it.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44634

                          Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Hawks want Ginnivan & Watson? Wouldn’t Curtin address a need, or are the rumours he might get homesick got some weight to them?

                          Would we pass on Curtin?
                          They will lose Bruest soon enough so bringing in 2 small forwards might not be overkill but you've made a good point and it might be a consideration. They'll also be bringing in McCabe with a later pick.
                          I think North should select Curtin because they're already got a more than decent midfield and with Logue out for a fair chunk of 2024 they could probably do with some help from a taller player.

                          I'd be happy enough if we selected Curtin, Watson or Sanders.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18959

                            Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            They will lose Bruest soon enough so bringing in 2 small forwards might not be overkill but you've made a good point and it might be a consideration. They'll also be bringing in McCabe with a later pick.
                            I think North should select Curtin because they're already got a more than decent midfield and with Logue out for a fair chunk of 2024 they could probably do with some help from a taller player.

                            I'd be happy enough if we selected Curtin, Watson or Sanders.
                            Agree, they need more balance especially with the amount of mids they have and McKay leaving.

                            Fingers crossed they take Curtain as my best case is McKercher falling through all it's unlikely.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14617

                              Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              Just did some white boarding of how the draft might look from our perspective. A phantom draft of sorts for giggles and making some assumptions on how picks might shuffle around when other bids are matched.

                              1 - West Coast - Harley Reid
                              No surprise there, the consensus #1 pick selected

                              2 - North Melbourne - Zane Duursma
                              A great mid sized forward who can also contribute in the midfield.

                              3 - Gold Coast Suns - Jed Walter
                              North's bid on Walter is matched by the Suns losing picks 24, 26 and 27 getting a pick in the early 50's back.

                              4 - North Melbourne - Colby McKercher
                              The best midfielder, a real ball winner

                              5 - Hawthorn - Nick Watson
                              After missing out on their preferred selection in Duursma, the Hawks take the best small forward.

                              6 - Western Bulldogs - Ryley Sanders
                              A combo inside/outside midfielder and capable goal kicker when forward.

                              7 - Gold Coast - Ethan Read
                              Suns match the Dee's bid losing picks 29, 33 and 53

                              8 - Melbourne - Daniel Curtin
                              The most versatile tall in the draft

                              9 - GWS - Nate Caddy
                              An excellent mid to tall forward.

                              10 - Geelong - Connor O'Sullivan
                              They lose one key defender during the trade period and add another at the draft.

                              11 - Essendon - Caleb Windsor
                              The winger tested brilliantly at the Combine

                              12 - Adelaide - James Leake
                              One of the most versatile mid sized players available.

                              13 - Western Bulldogs - Jordon Croft
                              Dogs match Melbournes bid losing picks 45, 47 and 50
                              If you were WCE would you trade pick 1 for 2 and 18?
                              The curse is dead.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44634

                                Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by chef
                                If you were WCE would you trade pick 1 for 2 and 18?
                                Not unless I could get higher up the order so I'd probably be okay with trading pick 1 for pick 3, 15 and 17.
                                I'd then see if I could get Adelaide to part with pick 10 for 15 and 17. Perhaps the Swans might be up for a trade of picks and Geelong might also be interested.

                                If I could get into a position where I could add local boys in Curtin, Tholstrup, Collard and Edwards it might be worth letting go of access to Reid.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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