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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44675

    Re: 2024 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by azabob
    An example of the Hotton pick going badly is Brayden George at North.

    He was considered a "steal" at pick 26 and slid because he was recovering from an ACL

    Unfortunately for George he did another ACL in the vfl during 2024.

    North could afford to take the risk, not sure we can.
    Yep, it's a good comparison. At pick 26 for North it was certainly a risk worth taking. Given we missed Smith this year we need to maximise picks 17 and 25 and minimise any risk.

    Richmond are well placed to use a later selection on him.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • Axe Man
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 11186

      Re: 2024 Draft Watch

      Originally posted by azabob
      An example of the Hotton pick going badly is Brayden George at North.

      He was considered a "steal" at pick 26 and slid because he was recovering from an ACL

      Unfortunately for George he did another ACL in the vfl during 2024.

      North could afford to take the risk, not sure we can.
      I think perhaps George is particularly injury prone/unlucky. Was just reading he dislocated his elbow in pre season and his shoulder earlier in the year before his second ACL.

      As I posted earlier in the thread Riley Garcia, Max King, Brodie Kemp and Elijah Hollands are all recentish draftees that haven't reinjured an ACL to this point after doing one in their draft year.

      Sure there is a higher risk but that's built into a discounted draft price. It's fairly rare these days careers are ruined by ACLs.

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      • Dogs 24/7
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2007
        • 1197

        Re: 2024 Draft Watch

        In an ideal scenario what should our shopping list look like in terms of midfielders, forwards to defenders?

        I'd like get someone like Bailey Williams who could both as a defender and on a wing.

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        • Dogs 24/7
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 1197

          Re: 2024 Draft Watch

          Am I right to assume our pick 48 will move in by a net 7 positions once bids for Ashcroft, Marshall, Kako and Lombard are matched?
          A likely scenario is pick 17 will move to 21. Pick 25 to 28 but 35 to 31 and 48 to 41 give or take one or two spots?

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11186

            Re: 2024 Draft Watch

            Originally posted by Dogs 24/7
            Am I right to assume our pick 48 will move in by a net 7 positions once bids for Ashcroft, Marshall, Kako and Lombard are matched?
            A likely scenario is pick 17 will move to 21. Pick 25 to 28 but 35 to 31 and 48 to 41 give or take one or two spots?
            Roughly correct I think. If you look at the mock draft I posted a few pages back our picks ended up being 20, 29 and 35 for the first 2 rounds. Obviously it depends where bids are placed for some players but as you say our first 2 picks will slide back. Our third pick should stay roughly where it is at 35 because the previous slide back will be offset by the Brisbane and Essendon picks in the late 20s and early 30s being used up matching.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44675

              Re: 2024 Draft Watch

              Originally posted by Dogs 24/7
              In an ideal scenario what should our shopping list look like in terms of midfielders, forwards to defenders?

              I'd like get someone like Bailey Williams who could both as a defender and on a wing.
              Ideally we need a bit of everything. A mid, a small defender and small forward plus we have room for a KPD and a ruck.

              Unless things really fall our way on the draft nights a more likely scenario is we get 2 or 3 versatile mids and a KP player.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Uninformed
                Draftee
                • Jan 2023
                • 826

                Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                By your suggestions around our picks, it looks like a good draft coming up for us.

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                • Dogs 24/7
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1197

                  Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  Roughly correct I think. If you look at the mock draft I posted a few pages back our picks ended up being 20, 29 and 35 for the first 2 rounds. Obviously it depends where bids are placed for some players but as you say our first 2 picks will slide back. Our third pick should stay roughly where it is at 35 because the previous slide back will be offset by the Brisbane and Essendon picks in the late 20s and early 30s being used up matching.
                  That's a good thing. We nabbed Freijah at 43 so if we can get a player of roughly the same quality of him in what is supposed to be a stronger draft we will be in a solid position. A couple of years back we got Gallagher at 39 so lets hope the draft gods are smiling on us this year.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44675

                    Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                    Originally posted by Uninformed
                    By your suggestions around our picks, it looks like a good draft coming up for us.
                    It can all get out of shape quickly on the draft night but there should be plenty of decent players for our selections.
                    I'm really interested to see our approach with the selections.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • kickit2Koly
                      Rookie List
                      • Nov 2023
                      • 180

                      Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                      From my limited viewing, my wish list based on our need for a mid, traditional forward pocket and half back is

                      17 Hynes/Berry
                      25 Hannaford/ Oliver
                      35 Clarke/moraes

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                      • Dogs 24/7
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 1197

                        Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by kickit2Koly
                        From my limited viewing, my wish list based on our need for a mid, traditional forward pocket and half back is

                        17 Hynes/Berry
                        25 Hannaford/ Oliver
                        35 Clarke/moraes
                        I'm not as convinced with Hynes as you might be. I wonder if what is working for him at the junior level transfers to the next level but that's a good list.

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                        • Go_Dogs
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10162

                          Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                          Liking the fact we?re being linked to Clarke. Sounds a likely type.

                          I suspect we?re heavily into a small forward at least once in the draft (subject to what else may flush out eg could we add Woodcock?) and if the right player is available at our first selection it might be worth a roll of the dice. It?s not always where the best are drafted but the early ones in recent years have been able to have almost immediate impacts either with their speed and defensive work or goal kicking nous. The downside is if you miss, they?re generally one trick ponies and they?re out of the club quickly with an early selection burned. Not a safe bet, but one we need to make I think.
                          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                          • Stevo
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2008
                            • 1040

                            Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            Other names in the mix for later in the draft would be
                            Nathaniel Sulzberger, Will Hayes, Hugh Boxshall, Jack Ough, and Floyd Burmeister
                            The later most drafts go the players tend to have some flaws that clubs either might need to accept or work on some improvements.
                            Are there anything noticeable with these players?

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14965

                              Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by Stevo
                              The later most drafts go the players tend to have some flaws that clubs either might need to accept or work on some improvements.
                              Are there anything noticeable with these players?
                              Sulzberger isn't a great kick and Hayes is very very light
                              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44675

                                Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by Stevo
                                The later most drafts go the players tend to have some flaws that clubs either might need to accept or work on some improvements.
                                Are there anything noticeable with these players?
                                All of them have some athletic traits that should appeal

                                If I'm understanding your question correctly, most players have some traits that clubs might not rate.

                                Sulzberger - Is a big midfielder, perhaps not quite quick enough but someone who should improve after a season or two at the VFL.
                                Hayes - Other than his slight frame I can't find anything that would be a negative and clubs shouldn't be put off by it.
                                Boxshall - The only knock on him might be his kick to handball ratio but he played as a inside mid so it's understandable.
                                If a club was going to use him on a wing or half back then he might thrive. He should be a top 30 player.
                                Ough - Not the most athletic of players but no real concerns.
                                Burmeister - Perhaps a but undersized as a ruckman but his leap and athleticism should more than compensate it.

                                You can't find reasons not to draft any just about any player but if you select good footballers with a great attitude clubs should be able to work any challenges/
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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