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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7374

    Re: 2024 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by kickit2Koly
    If it gets to pick 20 and Both Reid and Hotton are still on the board who do we pick?
    Someone else (for me).

    Reid (for Doctor).

    Hotton (for Lemmon).

    I'm sure others have other ideas. Talking to a couple of people yesterday, I think zero chance Reid is still there...I feel my views are gonna be on the wrong side of draft reality on this one!
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14965

      Re: 2024 Draft Watch

      Originally posted by hujsh
      Reid feels a bit too much like Macrae/Daniel, two blokes that couldn't nail spots in our best 22 despite being around the prime of their careers.
      Reid is miles less contested than Macrae, although they may be similar in defensive running.
      He's just too 'pure' a footballer to pass up though. Will he ever be a first rotation mid? His CP% counts against him (which is a measure some rudimentary studies show is quite the indicator) but he does seem to be able to execute that last kick inside 50 quite well which is often referred to as the hardest kick in football.
      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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      • Virgin-Dog
        Rookie List
        • Feb 2023
        • 269

        Re: 2024 Draft Watch

        Originally posted by Mofra
        Reid is miles less contested than Macrae, although they may be similar in defensive running.
        He's just too 'pure' a footballer to pass up though. Will he ever be a first rotation mid? His CP% counts against him (which is a measure some rudimentary studies show is quite the indicator) but he does seem to be able to execute that last kick inside 50 quite well which is often referred to as the hardest kick in football.
        Saw him compared to Gryan Miers. I don’t think it’s unrealistic to think he becomes a top quality high half forward if not suited to the middle. The way he moves through traffic, and the vision he shows with his disposal, gives him a real point of difference that we don’t have in our current 22.

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14965

          Re: 2024 Draft Watch

          Originally posted by kickit2Koly
          If it gets to pick 20 and Both Reid and Hotton are still on the board who do we pick?
          There's some suggestion we're really keen on Hynes at our first.
          Outside of the top 10 or so this is an incredibly open draft.

          On the 1% chance Lindsay falls to us we have to grab him.
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14965

            Re: 2024 Draft Watch

            Originally posted by Virgin-Dog
            Saw him compared to Gryan Miers. I don’t think it’s unrealistic to think he becomes a top quality high half forward if not suited to the middle. The way he moves through traffic, and the vision he shows with his disposal, gives him a real point of difference that we don’t have in our current 22.
            Miers seems more 'tenacious' and Reid more smooth. I think Reid goes early though.
            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44676

              Re: 2024 Draft Watch

              Originally posted by kickit2Koly
              If it gets to pick 20 and Both Reid and Hotton are still on the board who do we pick?
              Reid should be a top 8 to 12 pick. If he somehow slid down to 20 we should feel like we have done exceptionally well.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11844

                Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                Originally posted by Mofra
                Reid is miles less contested than Macrae, although they may be similar in defensive running.
                He's just too 'pure' a footballer to pass up though. Will he ever be a first rotation mid? His CP% counts against him (which is a measure some rudimentary studies show is quite the indicator) but he does seem to be able to execute that last kick inside 50 quite well which is often referred to as the hardest kick in football.
                I see more of Daniel to him with the lack of athleticism and polished footskils but he has some of the evasive tricks of young Macrae. It just seems like it'd be hard for him to find a niche at AFL level if he's a not fast, not contested mid or a not fast, not an aerial threat forward.

                Going purely on descriptions/highlights
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • kickit2Koly
                  Rookie List
                  • Nov 2023
                  • 180

                  Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                  Originally posted by mjp
                  Someone else (for me).

                  Reid (for Doctor).

                  Hotton (for Lemmon).

                  I'm sure others have other ideas. Talking to a couple of people yesterday, I think zero chance Reid is still there...I feel my views are gonna be on the wrong side of draft reality on this one!
                  Two questions

                  1. Who is your someone else? (apologies if you have already posted this)
                  2. If you had to choose one of those 2 who and why?

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                  • mjp
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7374

                    Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                    Originally posted by kickit2Koly
                    Two questions

                    1. Who is your someone else? (apologies if you have already posted this)
                    Without knowing who is available, it's a tough question.
                    I maintain Davis is being heavily under valued.

                    Originally posted by kickit2Koly
                    2. If you had to choose one of those 2 who and why?
                    I wouldn't.
                    Reid is a small forward (to me - I don't think he's a mid) who doesn't tackle. I don't see value there...I wish I could see what Doc sees but I can't. I did appreciate the Dal Santo comparison in here a few pages back 'cos I do think he could be 'that'...which would be a good pick!! But when Doc says the floor is Zac Bailey, well...if he's right well that's an incredible player.

                    I wouldn't draft Hotten that high coming off an ACL. Having done 3x ACL's, they suck and whilst everyone tells me the science etc is different now (and I agree), if you think that knee wont ALWAYS be troublesome then you're HOPING...I just wouldn't do that with our first pick the season AFTER we finished 1st or 2nd in both offence and defence and should be challenging for a flag.

                    We need someone who can come in and actually contribute (and I mean, Freijah contribute not Gallagher contribute)...
                    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                    • kickit2Koly
                      Rookie List
                      • Nov 2023
                      • 180

                      Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                      Originally posted by hujsh
                      I see more of Daniel to him with the lack of athleticism and polished footskils but he has some of the evasive tricks of young Macrae. It just seems like it'd be hard for him to find a niche at AFL level if he's a not fast, not contested mid or a not fast, not an aerial threat forward.

                      Going purely on descriptions/highlights
                      I think the best comparison to him I have seen is Nick Del Santo

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                      • mighty_west
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3439

                        Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        Without knowing who is available, it's a tough question.
                        I maintain Davis is being heavily under valued.



                        I wouldn't.
                        Reid is a small forward (to me - I don't think he's a mid) who doesn't tackle. I don't see value there...I wish I could see what Doc sees but I can't. I did appreciate the Dal Santo comparison in here a few pages back 'cos I do think he could be 'that'...which would be a good pick!! But when Doc says the floor is Zac Bailey, well...if he's right well that's an incredible player.

                        I wouldn't draft Hotten that high coming off an ACL. Having done 3x ACL's, they suck and whilst everyone tells me the science etc is different now (and I agree), if you think that knee wont ALWAYS be troublesome then you're HOPING...I just wouldn't do that with our first pick the season AFTER we finished 1st or 2nd in both offence and defence and should be challenging for a flag.

                        We need someone who can come in and actually contribute (and I mean, Freijah contribute not Gallagher contribute)...
                        I compared him to Dal just from the limited YT footage, a right footed version but his overall game is like a mirror image, smooth, nice skills, not quick but looks a smart player and would slot into any side and you'd be happy with him as a player who could play both mid and forward.

                        Either way by the write up's of all players that we could select on draft night, sounds like we could get some very good talent especially with our first 3 selections.

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11844

                          Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                          Dal Santo sounds like a good comparison except Dal Santo could win his share of contested ball (up around 10 a game or higher in his best years.) I can see why he's sliding down the draft order. Will be an interesting one to watch over the years
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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6932

                            Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            It should be malpractice to NOT bid on Ashcroft.

                            Just bid on him and make Brisbane pay the price.

                            For shit's sake - it's a COMPETITION. Make them pay every point possible...and if 'it doesn't matter' it will still be annoying...so annoy them.
                            The #1 Pick gets money from NAB, so maybe the club's with pick 1 rather just be nice to the guy they are getting, good will etc with a player who will hopefully be really valuable for your club. Also, the status of being 1/making out like you actually wanted them first.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44676

                              Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                              The #1 Pick gets money from NAB, so maybe the club's with pick 1 rather just be nice to the guy they are getting, good will etc with a player who will hopefully be really valuable for your club. Also, the status of being 1/making out like you actually wanted them first.
                              I agree with this, most clubs with the #1 pick should give the prestige and dollars that go with the pick to the player that will hopefully be at their club for a number of years. After that is out of the way though North or whoever owns the number 2 pick should select Ashcroft so that Brisbane pays as close to the correct amount as they should. I really rate Lomard and think a bid should come for him at 5 or 6, Kako around pick 10 and Marshall inside of pick 20,

                              It's a flawed process that has Brisbane who has made the last 2 GF paying later picks for top talent but good luck to anyone trying to change it.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 18972

                                Re: 2024 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                                The #1 Pick gets money from NAB, so maybe the club's with pick 1 rather just be nice to the guy they are getting, good will etc with a player who will hopefully be really valuable for your club. Also, the status of being 1/making out like you actually wanted them first.
                                Riley Tilthorpe style.
                                BT COME BACK!​

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