Coronavirus Info & Helpful Direction

[GVGjr]

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I had AZ about 3 weeks ago on a Wednesday and I was fine until about midnight that night. I was watching Rate my Takeaway on the YouTube app with my son when a wave of nausea hit me. I was still too ill to go to work on the Saturday but came good all of a sudden the next day.

Had my flu shot yesterday and I am feeling exactly the same today. Woke up about 4am feeling sick.

I had the flu shot 4 weeks ago with no real issue then I had the AZ shot on Saturday. Felt a bit lethargic for most of Sunday but all good by Monday. Most of the people I work with have had little reaction to it other than having the sweats for a few hours.

[Twodogs]

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I had the flu shot 4 weeks ago with no real issue then I had the AZ shot on Saturday. Felt a bit lethargic for most of Sunday but all good by Monday. Most of the people I work with have had little reaction to it other than having the sweats for a few hours.

I was as crook as a dog and couldn't get out of bed, didn't want to eat. I had to force myself to go to the supermarket a couple days after (the Friday I think) was in a car accident where it was totally the other person's fault (someone rear ended me) but I couldn't be bothered hanging to talk about it.I just checked they were ok and drove off!

We were only 200 yards from Yarraville nets too!

[Twodogs]

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Haha, I hope he only did number ones!

I'm pretty sure that was the case. He was the guy who introduced me to Bob Newhart's comedy.

[Mofra]

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Testing really has improved.
Drive in 3pm yesterday, SMS with results 8am this morning. Last time it took 5 days and I had to make multiple calls to get my results.

[Eastdog]

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https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/statement-acting-premier-3

Statement From The Acting Premier
09 June 2021

Make no mistake – our collective efforts over these past few weeks have changed the course of this outbreak. As individuals, as families and as a community, we have again done an incredible thing: protecting our state with grit, guts and determination.

Thanks doesn’t seem enough, but I’ll say it anyway. To every Victorian for following the rules, for doing the right thing, and for doing it with kindness and compassion – thank you.

For staying home and staying safe. For ordering in and taking out. For Zoom calls and virtual catchups. And for looking out for each other.

As much as we’ve achieved – this isn’t over. And it’s up to all of us to protect this precious thing we’ve worked so hard for.

That means staying COVIDSafe – most importantly, getting tested if you have any symptoms. It’s singlehandedly the biggest contribution we can make, ensuring that if the virus is circulating – we catch it early. Whether you do it for your family, your mates or your state – if you’re sick, get tested.

We’ve always said that when we could safely ease the rules, we would. And if we could make things even just a little easier, we wouldn’t waste a minute.

It’s why, on the advice of the Chief Health Officer, we can take some first safe steps. That means metropolitan Melbourne will move to almost the same settings currently in place across regional Victoria. And regional Victoria will move towards further easing.

From 11:59pm Thursday 10 June, the five reasons to leave home will no longer apply in metro Melbourne, and the existing 10-kilometre limit will be increased to 25 kilometres.

But wherever possible, we’re asking people to stay local. That means the only reasons to go further than 25 km will be work, education, care and caregiving, and getting vaccinated. And travel into regional Victoria to visit family and friends or take a holiday still remains a no go – for now.

We’re also still not in a position to be able to have visitors to our home, but outdoor gatherings will be increased to a maximum of ten people. And mask rules will be eased slightly – required inside, and outdoors when 1.5 metres isn’t possible.

In good news for families, schools will be able to resume face-to-face learning for all students from Friday.

Cafes, restaurants and pubs will open – with strict safety measures like density limits, seated service and QR codes in place. Remaining retail will also open. Hairdressing, beauty and personal care can resume, but only for services where masks can be kept on.

Weddings will be limited to 10 people, and funerals no more than 50. Fifty will also be the limit on religious gatherings. Swimming pools, entertainment venues and community facilities will also open subject to density limits. And community sport can happen, but only for training.

When it comes to work, there’ll no longer be a list – but if you can work from home, you should.

We also recognise that even with eased restrictions, some businesses still won’t be able to open. It’s why we’ll extend our support for closed businesses with a further $2000 top-up payment.

In regional Victoria, restrictions will also ease. Visitors to the home are allowed – limited to two people and their dependants – once per day. Public outdoor gatherings will be limited to 20 people.

There’ll also be increases to the capacity limits at places like restaurants, entertainment venues, community facilities and religious gatherings. Indoor sport, including gyms, will also be able to reopen with careful limits on the number of people permitted at any point in time.

There’ll be plenty more detail available online. But I want to assure people, subject to public health advice, we’ll have more to say about what further stages of easing will look like next week. That includes the regional border coming down and Victorians being able to travel more freely around the state.

For Melbourne, we’ll also look to further ease restrictions on venues and get community sport back to competition. We’ll also look at what more can be done to ease restrictions for businesses, without risking the gains we have made. Further work will also be done on easing for regional Victoria.

As always, we’ll make sure we keep people updated on how we’re tracking, providing more detail – and more certainty – as soon as we can.

Today is a good day, there’s no doubt about it. And we should absolutely be proud of what we’ve all achieved – but let me just say this:

It isn’t over yet, and until we have widespread vaccination, this virus will still be with us.

We all know how fragile this thing is. We’ve seen how easily it can take hold. And if we allow complacency to creep back even a little, we could lose everything we’ve worked so hard to protect.

There’s still work to do, there’s still our state to keep safe. And we’ll need every Victorian to help do just that.

[Bulldog Joe]

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I am sorry, but this is complete overkill from the authorities.

We laud the contact tracing and the numbers now indicate that all the cases are from those previously identified as being exposed and isolating.

I realise there is a possibility that someone who should be isolating does the wrong thing, but that is on the authorities to check.

For the rest of us, who have not had the exposure we are still restricted from visiting friends. However we can go to a restaurant.

Where is the logic in that?

If the contact tracing is sufficient, and mandatory check in should ensure that it is, there is no valid reason to have restrictions in place.

We surely know that we cannot eradicate and the challenge is to live with it.

Open up and get on with life, with sufficient safeguards to be able to identify everyone who comes in contact with any case in the future.

[jeemak]

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Possibly the logic is that the highest quotient of transmission occurs in the home and home visits pose the highest risk. People don't socially distance, don't practice higher hygiene.

[Bulldog Joe]

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Possibly the logic is that the highest quotient of transmission occurs in the home and home visits pose the highest risk. People don't socially distance, don't practice higher hygiene.

But contract tracing has already identified those exposed.

[Grantysghost]

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Possibly the logic is that the highest quotient of transmission occurs in the home and home visits pose the highest risk. People don't socially distance, don't practice higher hygiene.

Shared spaces also like kitchens, bathrooms and toilets. There are some good studies out of the UK showing the incidence of spread in this setting especially in high density housing. Chuck in the more infectious variants and I understand the decision based on the data at hand.

The other aspect to consider is compliance. You have to expect unfortunately there are people in Melbourne now who are infected and have not been tested for a myriad of reasons. The waste water monitoring is one good indicator of this.

A person from Melbourne has just travelled to QLD against the rules and returned a positive test up there for eg. What can you do?

Plan for the worst, hope for the best and all that. I expect we will get back to normal more quickly this time, just hope for some good weather so we can meet up outside ! (Today is feral!)

[Bornadog]

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Shared spaces also like kitchens, bathrooms and toilets. There are some good studies out of the UK showing the incidence of spread in this setting especially in high density housing. Chuck in the more infectious variants and I understand the decision based on the data at hand.

The other aspect to consider is compliance. You have to expect unfortunately there are people in Melbourne now who are infected and have not been tested for a myriad of reasons. The waste water monitoring is one good indicator of this.

A person from Melbourne has just travelled to QLD against the rules and returned a positive test up there for eg. What can you do?

Plan for the worst, hope for the best and all that. I expect we will get back to normal more quickly this time, just hope for some good weather so we can meet up outside ! (Today is feral!)

So will be the next few days, so happy to be indoors, plus Dogs having a week off. Worked out well.

[jeemak]

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But contract tracing has already identified those exposed.

I don't know what to tell you. GG makes some good points, I don't have the data and I'm not privy to the decision making process so as much as I don't like it I just suck it up and trust the medicos and experts whose advice drives the decisions know what they're doing.

[Bulldog Joe]

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I don't know what to tell you. GG makes some good points, I don't have the data and I'm not privy to the decision making process so as much as I don't like it I just suck it up and trust the medicos and experts whose advice drives the decisions know what they're doing.

We are all captive of the decision making, but it seems less consistent across different jurisdictions.

Why can NSW open up more readily, when you would expect the experts (if they all know what they are doing) to be giving very similar advice.

[Bornadog]

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We are all captive of the decision making, but it seems less consistent across different jurisdictions.

Why can NSW open up more readily, when you would expect the experts (if they all know what they are doing) to be giving very similar advice.

Here is a good article on asking why Melbourne:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/it-makes-no-sense-to-ask-why-melbourne-20210609-p57zba.html

[Bulldog Joe]

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Here is a good article on asking why Melbourne:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/i...09-p57zba.html

Thanks for the link.

I personally don't see the validity in the excuses he puts forward.

[Bornadog]

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Thanks for the link.

I personally don't see the validity in the excuses he puts forward.

We have been unlucky in Victoria.

NSW has had roughly 258 locally acquired cases since Nov 1st, and Victoria has had about 170, with 75 recent from SA HQ and 28 from Black Rock cluster from NSW.

If the Federal Gov did the right thing last year and developed proper quarantine stations and not allowed Hotel quarantine, plus began vaccination when other countries did, then we wouldn't be in this situation. We have only fully vaccinated 2.9% of the population compared to UK and USA who are over 40%.

We will be lucky to fully vaccinate everyone by March 2022.