Early Trade Rumours 2023

[GVGjr]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Is that actually Oliver? I assumed it was just a joke and was a random bogan.

For a split second I think it was Chris Lilley from Summer Heights High fame.
If he was in Vegas on an end of season trip or if he wasn't in the news at the moment it might not even get a mention.

[Dry Rot]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Naughton will be signing a 6 year deal -

https://twitter.com/TheSaltyBulldog/status/1709476136395350320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1709476136395350320%7Ctwgr%5Ef515e872945695a56ff9345391fac977885947b0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html1709476136395350320

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Great News!

[Sedat]

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Thanks for the detailed analysis and the thoughts you have shared which is appreciated.

I have a slightly different take on this if the view is that we genuinely aren't a professional or serious club.
I've suspected for a while that we are probably professional enough especially if a few things fall our way but we lack that bit of ruthlessness and a single minded approach that makes some professional clubs great clubs. We are okay with being around the mark if it means we don't bottom out like we did in the bad old days.
For us making hard decisions often appears to be done as a last resort or when that is forced upon us rather than part of a clinical mindset with lofty ambitions.
We have a mindset that focuses more on the failures in the past as reasons for not doing something rather than a focus of what's possible in the future if we get it right and we clearly don't handle success or failures that well.

Just some examples since our 2016 Flag.
We clearly dined out after our GF 2016 and had a gap year in 2017.
We didn't address distracted players and that created problems within the playing group and that lingered on for a while.
We took action on Stringer at the end of 2017 but the problems were deeper than that and we really would have known about it.
We've held onto marginal players for too long.
After a GF in 2021 we chose not to replace Josh Bruce who had just had his best season with us and I think we paid for that in 2022.

Prior to 2016 when B-Mac was struggling with the job it took a bit of a player mutiny to get him replaced but also we lost our club captain along the way but it did result in a huge turnaround in fortunes. But lets face it would we have replaced B-Mac when we did if Griffen didn't force us into it?
Would we have traded for Boyd when we did if Griff didn't force it and we didn't need big time selling point for members and a good story in the media? I suspect we would have waited until his contract was expiring.
When we lost Stringer we traded late in the piece for Schache and I think this was to get us a good news story as well to offset the loss of Stringer.

Off the field we are highly professional and our work of growing the membership, community involvement, the redevelopment of the Whitten Oval and many years of impressive profits is a testament of what can be achieved and our professionalism.
I've been somewhat critical of a few fan engagement opportunities but I think Ameet has assembled an impressive team that will take us forward.

On the field though we are limited by being not willing to take a risk and I suspect that has meant we haven't achieved what we are capable of. A lot hinges on how we set-up the footy department going forward and I can't wait for some of the pieces to start falling into place.

Thanks GVGjr, you were a lone voice 7 years ago while the rest of us were watching the GF replay for the 112th time.

Just a correction - I never said the club was not professional, only not serious. And we haven't been serious about being completely ruthless and uncompromising in our pursuit of sustained excellence on-field. You have highlighted many examples of this in your post, and the mindset from the top down needs to change (and immediately) across the entire organisation.

[josie]

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Naughton will be signing a 6 year deal -

https://twitter.com/TheSaltyBulldog/...76136395350320

Brilliant news. Now for Marra.

[bulldogtragic]

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Ralphy:

Naughton to sign on for more than 5 years at somewhere around $1M a season (yet to be finalised)
English will not sign before next season
Hawthorn to offer Pick 3 on Smith, thinks even if he stays he won’t stay passed next year
Favourites for Pick 4
We are apparently very keen on The Wizard

[Axe Man]

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Make that 8 more years for Naughton.

[josie]

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Ralphy:

Naughton to sign on for more than 5 years at somewhere around $1M a season (yet to be finalised)
English will not sign before next season
Hawthorn to offer Pick 3 on Smith, thinks even if he stays he won’t stay passed next year
Favourites for Pick 4
We are apparently very keen on The Wizard

8 more years - yippee!!! Bulldog (optimistically Bullgod in the making) for life. Now for Marra.

[bulldogtragic]

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Make that 8 more years for Naughton.

What’s the opposite of Eker. He could sign just two contracts after his draftee contract. Almost unheard of!

[comrade]

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Ralphy:

Naughton to sign on for more than 5 years at somewhere around $1M a season (yet to be finalised)
English will not sign before next season
Hawthorn to offer Pick 3 on Smith, thinks even if he stays he won’t stay passed next year
Favourites for Pick 4
We are apparently very keen on The Wizard

I’m completely out of the footy loop. Who’s the wizard?

[bulldogtragic]

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I’m completely out of the footy loop. Who’s the wizard?

Nick ‘The Wizard’ Watson.

[kruder]

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Ralphy:

Naughton to sign on for more than 5 years at somewhere around $1M a season (yet to be finalised)
English will not sign before next season
Hawthorn to offer Pick 3 on Smith, thinks even if he stays he won’t stay passed next year
Favourites for Pick 4
We are apparently very keen on The Wizard

What platform was this on?

[bulldogtragic]

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What platform was this on?

Hun.

[kruder]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Weightman, The Wizard and Arty buzzing around Naughty JUH and Darcy. I have a feeling that's too much cap spent on one area but it would be bloody exciting.

[bulldogtragic]

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Weightman, The Wizard and Arty buzzing around Naughty JUH and Darcy. I have a feeling that's too much cap spent on one area but it would be bloody exciting.

Don’t forget Charlie Clarke after a full preseason too. But it would be nice having forwards playing in the forward line (plus Naughton). With Bont & Adz to rest there. Just need to finally work out how to kick it to their advantage!

Probably means Macrae, West, Garcia, Scott and co have to be midfielders or VFL players. Daniel maybe a wing. Arty maybe too.