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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14033

    Re: 2023 Draft Watch

    Watson won’t get the same delivery with us as he has in underage.
    Sadly we are terrible in that department.
    Bring back the biff

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18758

      Re: 2023 Draft Watch

      Welcome to the Bulldogs : THE WIZARD!
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • jazzadogs
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Oct 2008
        • 5489

        Re: 2023 Draft Watch

        If all we're getting back is 3rds, then why aren't we reading out a future 2nd? Why the first?

        It feels like the first trade gold coast will have won in the existence of their club.

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        • Testekill
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 2327

          Re: 2023 Draft Watch

          Originally posted by jazzadogs
          If all we're getting back is 3rds, then why aren't we reading out a future 2nd? Why the first?

          It feels like the first trade gold coast will have won in the existence of their club.
          Can't believe we're going to get bent over in a trade by the people who traded out pick 7 and a salary cap dump for a future 3rd round pick.

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          • jazzadogs
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Oct 2008
            • 5489

            Re: 2023 Draft Watch

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Some Nick Watson highlights.

            What's his forward pressure like? Most of those highlights were leading mark and kick, not that dissimilar to Cody if a little bit quicker and less 'high-flying'.

            He's clearly talented and kicked some nice goals...but...is he worth it?

            If the trade was just 10 and 17 for 4 and late picks, I'm in - but including the future first means he really needs to be worth it.

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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 7659

              Re: 2023 Draft Watch

              Originally posted by jazzadogs
              What's his forward pressure like? Most of those highlights were leading mark and kick, not that dissimilar to Cody if a little bit quicker and less 'high-flying'.

              He's clearly talented and kicked some nice goals...but...is he worth it?

              If the trade was just 10 and 17 for 4 and late picks, I'm in - but including the future first means he really needs to be worth it.
              He 100% is not worth it. I'm not saying he's no good either. Reid isn't even worth 3 firsts. It's a stupid trade. Stupid.

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              • MrMahatma
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2007
                • 3960

                Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                Certainly doesn't feel like we're "winning" but I guess it means:

                1. We more or less pay a F1 for Croft - which maybe is about his value?
                2. We move up the draft to get the player we want. I don't hate this. I've always thought 1 excellent player is worth more than 2 average players, and a crumbing forward is a need.

                It's still a gamble and it leaves us thin next year. Maybe we think we're going to get some firsts next year if we lose Smith or English?

                Given the time it takes KPPs to develop, I don't mind the approach of locking them away and using our picks on them for a few years (which we've done) and then spending a few years rebuilding the midfield. It sorta works in theory, but the problem is we lose a few years of Bont in the meantime.

                But if Ads (who was injured all year) and Bont can be at their best, and Smith can rotate through, I think we have the midfield sorted for TODAY - it's 2-3 years from now that the questions come. So... let's just win the 2024 flag.

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                • bulldogsthru&thru
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • May 2011
                  • 7659

                  Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                  Originally posted by MrMahatma
                  Certainly doesn't feel like we're "winning" but I guess it means:

                  1. We more or less pay a F1 for Croft - which maybe is about his value?
                  2. We move up the draft to get the player we want. I don't hate this. I've always thought 1 excellent player is worth more than 2 average players, and a crumbing forward is a need.

                  It's still a gamble and it leaves us thin next year. Maybe we think we're going to get some firsts next year if we lose Smith or English?

                  Given the time it takes KPPs to develop, I don't mind the approach of locking them away and using our picks on them for a few years (which we've done) and then spending a few years rebuilding the midfield. It sorta works in theory, but the problem is we lose a few years of Bont in the meantime.

                  But if Ads (who was injured all year) and Bont can be at their best, and Smith can rotate through, I think we have the midfield sorted for TODAY - it's 2-3 years from now that the questions come. So... let's just win the 2024 flag.
                  A F1 for Croft is terrible if we don't make top 4. He's worth around Pick 15-20.

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                  • The Bulldogs Bite
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11064

                    Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                    Watson looks great.

                    What does it mean for Clarke though? Does it say we are concerned?

                    I don't see Weightman moving up the ground. He's a 30-40 goal forward.
                    W00F!

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                    • SquirrelGrip
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 1458

                      Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                      Watson looks great.

                      What does it mean for Clarke though? Does it say we are concerned?

                      I don't see Weightman moving up the ground. He's a 30-40 goal forward.
                      I was thinking the same thing about Clarke, but to be honest if he is good enough, there'll be a spot. If we had three elite small forwards playing well, we'll find a way to make that work.

                      It couldn't create a bigger challenge/opportunity for Clarke. Hope he realises that and has a big pre-season.
                      "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                        Watson looks great.

                        What does it mean for Clarke though? Does it say we are concerned?

                        I don't see Weightman moving up the ground. He's a 30-40 goal forward.
                        No, I think we are finally going to play all forwards in the forward line.

                        Watson Marra Weightman
                        Clarke Naughton Lobb

                        Adz & Bont rest forward.

                        No more West, McNeil, Garcia, Scott, VDM etc. - three talls, two hybrid smalls and Clarke as a small.

                        We just have to finally kick it I50 to advantage. It’s a multi dimensional forward line.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • jazzadogs
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5489

                          Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          No, I think we are finally going to play all forwards in the forward line.

                          Watson Marra Weightman
                          Clarke Naughton Lobb

                          Adz & Bont rest forward.

                          No more West, McNeil, Garcia, Scott, VDM etc. - three talls, two hybrid smalls and Clarke as a small.

                          We just have to finally kick it I50 to advantage. It’s a multi dimensional forward line.
                          If you combined that forward line with Melbourne's backs and mids you'd have a premiership team.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by jazzadogs
                            If you combined that forward line with Melbourne's backs and mids you'd have a premiership team.
                            Nah, just need Coffield & Harmes!
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • The Doctor
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3701

                              Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by ledge
                              Watson won’t get the same delivery with us as he has in underage.
                              Sadly we are terrible in that department.
                              and thats exactly why we need him. He won't rely on precise delivery. He is brilliant at ground level. A real predator and hungry for a goal. He will pluck goals out of his arsenal.
                              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                              • The Doctor
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 3701

                                Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                                Watson looks great.

                                What does it mean for Clarke though? Does it say we are concerned?

                                I don't see Weightman moving up the ground. He's a 30-40 goal forward.
                                No I wouldn't be concerned about clark at this stage. We actually need more small forward scoring power so we don't have to rely on McNeil, VDM, and whoever else is a not a forward being forced into being one and not scoring. Would love to also get Collard. Watching games would be fun again!
                                Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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