2023 List Management Thread

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66829

    Re: 2023 List Management Thread

    SEN's assessment of our out of contract players

    Anthony Scott
    Became a regular starter this season and has found his feet in the Bulldogs forward line.
    A career high in goals this season should earn him a new deal.

    Verdict: Two-year deal

    Bailey Williams
    Has played in every game season for the Bulldogs and is closing in on a third year in a row with playing 20+ games in a season.

    Verdict: Three-year deal

    Buku Khamis
    Has only been on the list for three seasons so far.
    The club sees potential in him to be used both up forward and down back. Other departures could see more opportunities next year.

    Verdict: Two-year deal

    Caleb Poulter
    Beveridge seems to like him and has been consistent since his debut with the club. Should be given another go.

    Verdict: One-year deal

    Cody Raak
    Hasn?t played a career game to date still. A good chance to be one of the unlucky ones come season's end.

    Verdict: Delist

    Dominic Bedendo
    Similar story to Raak. Time to look for some opportunities elsewhere.

    Verdict: Delist

    Hayden Crozier
    An injury-riddled year has prevented him from getting a good run at it in 2023.
    Still has a bit left in him to be a consistent contributor to this backline.

    Verdict: One-year deal

    Jordon Sweet
    Seems to be their only other option if English was to leave or get injured.
    Interest from other clubs could make the Bulldogs more desperate to keep him as well.

    Verdict: Two-year deal but may request a trade

    Josh Bruce
    ACL injury has probably made the decision for both him and the club.
    Retirement looms as the eventual outcome.

    Verdict: Retire

    Lachlan McNeil
    Found his way to gain a lot more opportunities in the senior side this year.
    Has done enough to get a new deal.

    Verdict: Two-year deal

    Mitchell Hannan
    Has fallen out of favour since 2021 and has become a fringe-type player for a while. His chances of a new offer seem slim.

    Verdict: Delist

    Roarke Smith
    Has been a battler for a long time and has had an unfortunate run with injury this year. One more chance seems likely.

    Verdict: One-year deal

    Robbie McComb
    First featured in Round 16 against the Saints this year and has only played three games.
    Looks like he will be a part of the unlucky few that will need to look for a new home.

    Verdict: Delist

    Taylor Duryea
    A regular in the backline and a dependent player who usually is tasked with locking down the best opposition small forward every week.
    His next contract could be his last due to his age.

    Verdict: One-year deal

    Tim O?Brien
    Hasn?t been able to find his feet since joining the Bulldogs. Looks like his time at his second club could be up.

    Verdict: Delist

    Toby McLean
    Unfortunately, his best has gone past him due to a very unlucky run with injuries. Bulldogs will probably want to move on.

    Verdict: Delist

    Zac Sharpe
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • EasternWest
      Hall of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 10002

      Re: 2023 List Management Thread

      Doesn't say what we're going to do with Zac Sharpe.
      "It's over. It's all over."

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: 2023 List Management Thread

        Originally posted by EasternWest
        Doesn't say what we're going to do with Zac Sharpe.
        Summary dismissal…

        So we are elevating three rookies. Delist/retire five main list spots. So we have two list spots available…

        What of the 6 draft picks we have, plus any trades in. Just ignore the list rules and the AFEL will be ok?

        ****ing garbage nonsense.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66829

          Re: 2023 List Management Thread

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Summary dismissal…

          So we are elevating three rookies. Delist/retire five main list spots. So we have two list spots available…

          What of the 6 draft picks we have, plus any trades in. Just ignore the list rules and the AFEL will be ok?

          ****ing garbage nonsense.
          The list is out of contract players
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: 2023 List Management Thread

            Originally posted by bornadog
            The list is out of contract players
            I get it. He’s suggesting we have two spots open after his analytic suggestions on keeping players when we need probably 8 spots open.

            By my count he’s wildly, silly wrong. Not a bit wrong, a shit load wrong. An analysis that is detached from reality and factors in none of the myriad other factors our club needs to balance. My dead grandma could do better.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15333

              Re: 2023 List Management Thread

              Originally posted by bornadog
              The list is out of contract players
              How does that change BT's maths?
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66829

                Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                Originally posted by azabob
                How does that change BT's maths?
                Add any trades etc to get to 8
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Add any trades etc to get to 8
                  We are trading out 6 players to get to 8? Ok, happy to hear all six traded players we are getting rid of. Who are the six players going?

                  Wouldn’t six player’s requesting trades in one off season ring alarm bells?

                  But who are they six trading out?
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • Bulldog Joe
                    Premiership Moderator
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5585

                    Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                    I do not see how anyone can suggest a 2 year deal for Khamis.
                    We won't play him and the addition of Croft plus hoped for development for Busslinger and Darcy pushes him further back.

                    Raak has shown a little more promise recently and a 1 year rookie would be ok.

                    Bedendo has something if his body could get right.
                    Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                    • macca
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2368

                      Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                      IF we are not playing the above guys, we should be moving them on. No point of clogging the list with potential, we have more players already long enough i.e VDM

                      Scott and Caleb, I would keep, the rest are not playing regularly or consistent footy, so they will need to be moved on at some stage.

                      Duryea sadly time has caught up with him.
                      Buku, we won't play him as a defender and he is behind a few as a forward. I cannot see him staying

                      Honestly I like all the above players mentioned, I do not see any of them apart from ones mentioned above making us a better team with their limitations and injuries. Sadly its a high performance based results driven industry
                      Last edited by macca; 03-08-2023, 07:58 PM.

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                      • JanLorMill
                        WOOF Member
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 1701

                        Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        I still think Ewan McPherson could make a decent BP player
                        Footscray is where we should be getting our BPs and taggers from except not sure we don't play either. Players like McComb and Scott should have been developed in this role.

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14977

                          Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                          Originally posted by JanLorMill
                          Footscray is where we should be getting our BPs and taggers from except not sure we don't play either. Players like McComb and Scott should have been developed in this role.
                          If we want a defensively minded tagger who can run in the middle, hello Sullivan.

                          Would we play one though?
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • The Doctor
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3702

                            Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                            We should give Zac Sharpe a 2 year contract
                            Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                            • The Doctor
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3702

                              Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                              Dudes

                              Sullivan is not a small defender or winger or tagger or small forward or Ruck.

                              He is a central midfielder who should be on an AFL list. if he is put on ours he will end up being one of the above. Another misplaced midfielder.
                              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                              • The Doctor
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 3702

                                Re: 2023 List Management Thread

                                Originally posted by JanLorMill
                                Footscray is where we should be getting our BPs and taggers from except not sure we don't play either. Players like McComb and Scott should have been developed in this role.
                                I think Ewan Macpherson is the guy you're looking for. He is a tough nut like his Dad and doesn't mind upsetting apple carts. Maybe he is not nice enough for us?

                                Scott is too easily brushed aside. McComb no, not for that
                                Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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