Early Trade Rumours 2023

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Seems fair

I’m happy enough. Some good points attached.

[jazzadogs]

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HUN:

Expecting Pick 48 for Jordan Sweet.

I want 25 like Geelong are getting for Esava.

Jokes, that's a completely reasonable deal.

[hujsh]

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Actually can't complain on that. It's a good time to be trading out fringe types it seems

[bulldogtragic]

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Actually can't complain on that. It's a good time to be trading out fringe types it seems

Honestly, I would’ve been happy to give them back 75. Still wouldn’t mind if we did as it’s pretty useless now it seems.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I'm going to buck the trend here.

First, let me preface this by saying I was in favour of rebuilding because I think this group has failed too many times to go back to battle. I felt we could have rebuilt quickly if we made some tough decisions to trade quality players.

However, it's clear the club still thinks it can contend. Fair enough - I can respect not dying wondering. Our recruiting is in line with that.

Given that direction, Harmes and Coffield make sense. Why wouldn't Billings (and possibly other Moneyball options) too? I've never been a BIG fan of Billings, but he's never really been part of a good team. He's cream, not cake. I could understand our rationale if we thought benefit outweighed cost and traded for him.

All depends what he's worth, and what role he would play.

If it means we rarely see McNeil, R Smith, Vandermeer etc. that's only going to improve our depth and, in turn, improve our results.

[MrMahatma]

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I'm going to buck the trend here.

First, let me preface this by saying I was in favour of rebuilding because I think this group has failed too many times to go back to battle. I felt we could have rebuilt quickly if we made some tough decisions to trade quality players.

However, it's clear the club still thinks it can contend. Fair enough - I can respect not dying wondering. Our recruiting is in line with that.

Given that direction, Harmes and Coffield make sense. Why wouldn't Billings (and possibly other Moneyball options) too? I've never been a BIG fan of Billings, but he's never really been part of a good team. He's cream, not cake. I could understand our rationale if we thought benefit outweighed cost and traded for him.

All depends what he's worth, and what role he would play.

If it means we rarely see McNeil, R Smith, Vandermeer etc. that's only going to improve our depth and, in turn, improve our results.

It feels like that’s the strategy. Bring in depth at low draft cost, and bring in elite at the top of the draft.

Ignoring thoughts on particular players, the concept is interesting and I don’t mind it. I think lifting the average output from our bottom 4-6 is gonna help overall.

[choconmientay]

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Oh so now recruiting an older guy who wasn't picked for significant stretches of the year and is on 800k a year and plays forward but has an accuracy of 40% not accounting for attempts that don't score is suddenly a 'horrible idea'

I bet you were against trading for Jade Rawlings too and last I checked he kicked 7 on debut.

Is he on 800K though?

SEN reported he is on 500K/y and has got 2 years to go on his current contract.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/10/09/collingwood-labelled-a-great-fit-for-billings-as-footy-boss-flags-mild/

SEN?s Tom Morris also reported that trade interest in Billings is growing after he appeared to have a lack of suitors just last week.

Morris believes the reigning premiers would be a great fit for the Saint as he looks to revitalise his career.

?The word around Jack Billings over the last five to seven days has shifted from what it was before that,? Morris said.

?There is talk around Jack Billings now (as a trade option), there wasn't talk around Jack Billings a couple of weeks ago.

?I?m not sure the answer to that (if they would pay part of his salary), but they will help him get there. I don't think they're going to ask for too much.

?He has two years to go on his contract on about $500,000 a year. He's keen to leave, his manager's keen for him to leave, the Saints are happy for him to go.

He reminds me on our own Shaun Higgins, soft, injury prone but other teams extracted the best out of him.

[hujsh]

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Is he on 800K though?

SEN reported he is on 500K/y and has got 2 years to go on his current contract.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/10/09/collingwood-labelled-a-great-fit-for-billings-as-footy-boss-flags-mild/

He reminds me on our own Shaun Higgins, soft, injury prone but other teams extracted the best out of him.

Oh happy to be corrected there. I thought I read he was on 800k and maybe I did but that was wrong

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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I'm not totally against Billings if it's on the cheap. He's a decent player if healthy.

[Grantysghost]

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I'm not totally against Billings if it's on the cheap. He's a decent player if healthy.

There's that word again. IF.

If Croft nominates.
If Harmes can be good again.
If we make top 4.
If bloody if!

Not speaking about your post as much as im worried we might be gambling a bit here thinking we've got a house of cards but we are actually holding a uno reverse card.

[Rocco Jones]

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There's that word again. IF.

If Croft nominates.
If Harmes can be good again.
If we make top 4.
If bloody if!

Not speaking about your post as much as im worried we might be gambling a bit here thinking we've got a house of cards but we are actually holding a uno reverse card.

Croft surely has signalled his intention to nominate. If we did the deal without that being a lock, wow.

[Scorlibo]

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Given we're well down the path of topping up for a tilt, Billings is the kind of player that should make us better. A true half-forward with a beautiful left foot.

[bulldogtragic]

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Given we're well down the path of topping up for a tilt, Billings is the kind of player that should make us better. A true half-forward with a beautiful left foot.

Whose career accuracy at goal is around 40%. Just don’t have him kick at goal if we want to improve our goal kicking.

[mjp]

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I'm not totally against Billings if it's on the cheap. He's a decent player if healthy.

Plus - if we can sign Billings, get Tom Boyd to pull the boots back on and convince Josh Kelly to move down from the Giants, we'll have put together the top 4 selections from the 2013 draft. Now that would be something wouldn't it? I mean, we've already got pick 29 from that draft running around as well, so maybe we could narrow our future recruiting pool??

Would certainly save time and money scouting games and assessing players!

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Plus - if we can sign Billings, get Tom Boyd to pull the boots back on and convince Josh Kelly to move down from the Giants, we'll have put together the top 4 selections from the 2013 draft. Now that would be something wouldn't it? I mean, we've already got pick 29 from that draft running around as well, so maybe we could narrow our future recruiting pool??

Would certainly save time and money scouting games and assessing players!

We're already working on the 2017 draft with going after Coffield.

It's our new strategy it seems.