2023 List Management Thread

[ledge]

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Sharering this article about Sharman from the sainte , they have recruited 4 players from SANFL.
Camentitit is another from thr SPP they picked up
Sharman is one of four players at RSEA Park that was plucked out of the SANFL after being forced to do it the hard way. Cal Wilkie is the poster boy, rising from full-time accountant, part-time footballer to All-Australian last week. Tom Highmore and Hayes are the other two

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1025475/the-rocket-he-needed-how-rodney-eade-inspired-st-kilda-saint-cooper-sharmans-rise

Their scouts seem to be able to reach wide

Sometimes it’s just retired footballers who see something in a player and ring the club they played for .
Story goes Hawk happened to notice Chris Grant and rang the club and informed them to look at him.
Might be an ex player over in SA doing the same thing.

[macca]

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Sometimes it’s just retired footballers who see something in a player and ring the club they played for .
Story goes Hawk happened to notice Chris Grant and rang the club and informed them to look at him.
Might be an ex player over in SA doing the same thing.

Spot on , interesting Eade saw something in him and inspired Sharman to go to the next level and not give up. Really good story here.

[Mofra]

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Sharering this article about Sharman from the saints , they have picked up 4 players from SANFL for nothing .
Sharman is one of four players at RSEA Park that was plucked out of the SANFL after being forced to do it the hard way. Cal Wilkie is the poster boy, rising from full-time accountant, part-time footballer to All-Australian last week. Tom Highmore and Hayes are the other two

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1025475/...-sharmans-rise

We plucked Sweet from the SANFL - ditto McNeill IIRC

[jeemak]

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Sometimes it’s just retired footballers who see something in a player and ring the club they played for .
Story goes Hawk happened to notice Chris Grant and rang the club and informed them to look at him.
Might be an ex player over in SA doing the same thing.

If you had have watched the 1992 Diamond Dogs five thousand times like I did you'd remember Hawk said he called the club but they told him they were all over it.

[Bornadog]

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Season now over for all players.

my delist/trade - if we really had the balls

Bedendo, Dominic	Delist
Bruce, Josh	retired
Crozier, Hayden	Delist
Duryea, Taylor	delist
Hannan, Mitchell	Delisted
McComb, Robbie R	Delist
McLean, Toby	Possible Trade
McNeil, Lachlan R	delist
O'Brien, Tim	delist
Raak, Cody R	delist
Smith, Roarke R	delist
Sweet, Jordon R	most likely leaves
Khamis, Buku R	most likely leaves

[jeemak]

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Could you imagine if we opened up 12 spots!

Not sure the draft runs deep enough for that, nor do I think the players likely to leave for more opportunity will draw any playable compensation.

[Rocket Science]

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Incredible to say but we probably actually still need Duryea given there's zero pressure for his spot in the role he plays.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2023 List Management Thread

Season now over for all players.

my delist/trade - if we really had the balls

Bedendo, Dominic	Delist
Bruce, Josh	retired
Crozier, Hayden	Delist
Duryea, Taylor	delist
Hannan, Mitchell	Delisted
McComb, Robbie R	Delist
McLean, Toby	Possible Trade
McNeil, Lachlan R	delist
O'Brien, Tim	delist
Raak, Cody R	delist
Smith, Roarke R	delist
Sweet, Jordon R	most likely leaves
Khamis, Buku R	most likely leaves

Yep. But the narrative around 2-4 draft picks makes me think it’s not close to happening unfortunately.

How many good AFEL games did that list not yet retired/delisted put together combined?

We aren’t losing much if anything by taking some extra kids over re-signing much of this list.

[soupman]

Re: 2023 List Management Thread

Season now over for all players.

my delist/trade - if we really had the balls

Bedendo, Dominic	Delist
Bruce, Josh	retired
Crozier, Hayden	Delist
Duryea, Taylor	delist
Hannan, Mitchell	Delisted
McComb, Robbie R	Delist
McLean, Toby	Possible Trade
McNeil, Lachlan R	delist
O'Brien, Tim	delist
Raak, Cody R	delist
Smith, Roarke R	delist
Sweet, Jordon R	most likely leaves
Khamis, Buku R	most likely leaves

What happens if there are no takers? Delist or keep?

[jeemak]

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How much fun will it be teaching 1/4 of the list how we play from scratch?

[soupman]

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How much fun will it be teaching 1/4 of the list how we play from scratch?

More fun than watching guys that we have proven don't improve us take up list spots?

[GVGjr]

Re: 2023 List Management Thread

Season now over for all players.

my delist/trade - if we really had the balls

Bedendo, Dominic	Delist
Bruce, Josh	retired
Crozier, Hayden	Delist
Duryea, Taylor	delist
Hannan, Mitchell	Delisted
McComb, Robbie R	Delist
McLean, Toby	Possible Trade
McNeil, Lachlan R	delist
O'Brien, Tim	delist
Raak, Cody R	delist
Smith, Roarke R	delist
Sweet, Jordon R	most likely leaves
Khamis, Buku R	most likely leaves

It's an interesting table when lined up to what Sam Power has indicated with be our draft position of around 2 to 4 picks.
Unless we are somehow going to trade a lot of players in then we will sign a few of these to one year deals.

I'd say Duryea stays on and either Crozier or O'Brien will be given another year but they shouldn't.
If we are confident that Bedendo can get fit enough there must be a chance we retain him as well and we might keep Buku uless another club offers him a 2 year deal. We should go hard at keeping Sweet.

[jeemak]

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More fun than watching guys that we have proven don't improve us take up list spots?

I think it needs to be a mixed approach.

With Sweet it will be a back up ruck in, so that's relatively neutral given he didn't play. Not sure about Khamis, but again, it's neutral because he didn't play.

I would let Crozier go and back Cleary and Gallagher. Duryea plays a really difficult position, and I'd not let him go unless we were certain we could attract someone who could play his role at his level or better which isn't a given.

O'Brien leaves me on the fence. I don't trust his body, though much like Roark if he can get that settled then he is good cover. McNeil can improve, he's only 22 and again, is good cover if we think we can't find someone better via trade or draft.

Not sure I see Raak making it, though I think Bedendo needs another crack because he has some attributes as a medium forward we need.

I think the rest speak for themselves or are already spoken for. The only maybe is Toby but I can't see him getting his pace back to where it needs to be and there's a few in front of him as next in line for the inside mid spot.

So what does that leave us with, eight open list spots for drafting and trade? I think that's about right. Twelve to me is too much.

Next year's improvement will come from more consistent effort from our mid-tier and incremental improvement elsewhere via trade and/ or some players taking a long overdue step forward.

[azabob]

Re: 2023 List Management Thread

Season now over for all players.

my delist/trade - if we really had the balls

Bedendo, Dominic	Delist
Bruce, Josh	retired
Crozier, Hayden	Delist
Duryea, Taylor	delist
Hannan, Mitchell	Delisted
McComb, Robbie R	Delist
McLean, Toby	Possible Trade
McNeil, Lachlan R	delist
O'Brien, Tim	delist
Raak, Cody R	delist
Smith, Roarke R	delist
Sweet, Jordon R	most likely leaves
Khamis, Buku R	most likely leaves

Delist half.
Sign the rest for one year and do not renew their contracts end of 2024.

[Bornadog]

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Delist half.
Sign the rest for one year and do not renew their contracts end of 2024.

That is what will happen, but what should happen is also difficult given picks we have.