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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 19109

    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Originally posted by angelopetraglia
    CATS REACH OUT TO DOGS ON BAILEY...

    Geelong Cats have made contact with Western Bulldogs to assure the club is not pursuing gun playmaker Bailey Smith.

    The Herald Sun understands a senior official at Geelong reached out to a colleague at the kennel to ease any fears the Dogs had about a rumoured approach from the Cats.

    There was a report the Cats were actively discussing Smith but Geelong has denied it is in the midst of making a play for the star midfielder-forward.

    Smith, 22, is contracted at the Bulldogs for another season and played well in the crushing win over Essendon at Marvel Stadium on Friday night amid some debate about his best position.

    Smith, who again spent time on the forward flank, gathered 25 possessions and was highlighted by coach Luke Beveridge for his selfless team play helping disrupt Essendon’s intercept game across half back.

    The No. 7 pick in the 2018 draft will play his 100th senior match against GWS Giants in Ballarat on Saturday afternoon.

    Source: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...c1bbf5c818f755
    Now I'm more worried.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11451

      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

      Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
      Don't think I've ever seen a report like that before.
      Weird article to say the least. Geelong have every right to reach out to opposition players to try and improve their list (as does every club). What shits me about the Cats is the bazillion $$ in tax-payer funds they've received to upgrade their pissant stadium as well as the Cotton On Cats brown paper bags.

      Chris Scott talking about inequities in the competition should be the headline act at next year's Melbourne Comedy Festival.
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 19109

        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

        Originally posted by Sedat
        Weird article to say the least. Geelong have every right to reach out to opposition players to try and improve their list (as does every club). What shits me about the Cats is the bazillion $$ in tax-payer funds they've received to upgrade their pissant stadium as well as the Cotton On Cats brown paper bags.

        Chris Scott talking about inequities in the competition should be the headline act at next year's Melbourne Comedy Festival.
        He is literally using George's look annoyed idea, Larry David's genius is everywhere.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • The Bulldogs Bite
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 11344

          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

          Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
          Tim certainly could be a matchwinner.

          I remember Jordan Roughead taking that mark from the kick-in after the disallowed JJ goal. That was a matchwinning mark. Tim is absolutely capable of that.
          If I am paying $1m a year to a player, I want more than "maybe" being able to be a matchwinner.

          Any one player is capable of being a match winner, the point is, very few are consistent match winners. That's why they're paid accordingly.

          There is no way English is worth as much as Bont, or Martin in his prime, Hawkins, Franklin, etc.

          Vred summed it up well. How many rucks have actually been consistent match winners? Gawn yep, Cox maybe - there's nobody outside of that. Rucks just shouldn't be paid that much (see Grundy). If the Weagles are willing to blow that much on one player, let 'em.

          I still find it hard to understand why West Coast would let Barass go, take an early pick to hit the draft (which they need) but then cough up a ransom for English. It kind of doesn't make sense...
          W00F!

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          • bulldogsthru&thru
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • May 2011
            • 7912

            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            That?s good news if they?ve got Pick 7 from Sydney.

            Makes trading Pick 1 a little more palatable.
            They'll surely most likely offer us the pick 7.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45027

              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

              WC strong interest in English would come from the fact that with Nic Nat they've long had a dominant ruck and being a local boy he's a logical target. They'd probably rate the ruck position more than some clubs
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • mjp
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7444

                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                I am still curious why anyone thinks West Coast would be targeting individual oppo players on big $ deals when it seems 100% obvious that they need MORE draft picks not less draft picks.

                I keep reading all of this English for a 'high' pick stuff and I simply don't understand why they would do it.

                I know the clubs are far (far) smarter than me, but WHY would they do this? Is it purely because he grew up 4-hours south of Perth and there is a go-home factor?

                More appropriate WA-born draft targets for West Coast:

                - Adelaide: prob no-one though McAdam would hold interest.
                - Brisbane: Robertson. Prior. Maybe Starcevich but I would class him as a Qld-er.
                - Carlton: Fisher
                - Pies: Darcy Cameron.
                - Dons: Guelfe.
                - Cats: Prob no-one.
                - Suns: Sharp.
                - Giants: Taylor (of course).
                - Hawks: Granger-Barrass,
                - Dees: Rivers. Van Rooyen.
                - North: Zurhaar
                - Port: none really.
                - Richmond: Baker, Bolton.
                - Sydney: Warner, McDonald, Sheldrick

                Basically, there are a heap of them. I would be prioritising players I could offer BIG pay rises - but who would only still be paid middle of the road salaries - and get them for minimal draft capital. I would target Baker HARD (leadership, desperation, sets standards) and Zurhaar (similar reasons) and try and build around these 23-25 year olds...

                Paying AUD$1million + to a ruckman to hit the ball to Ellijah Hewitt and Connor West? Yeah...hard pass thanks.

                They need to build with culture and effort - they need to bake a cake. They don't need to stick cream on top of the cake they have now...'cos that cake is all burned and sad and no-one wants it.
                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                • hujsh
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 11888

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                  Dockers 'optimistic' out-of-contract wingman will stay amid best form
                  [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                  • The Doctor
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3704

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                    I heard the Bell podcast about Henry. He doesn't share Longmuir's optimism.
                    Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                    • The Bulldogs Bite
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 11344

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                      Sounds like what JL said about Lobb.
                      W00F!

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                      • macca
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 2384

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        Now I'm more worried.
                        Yeah me too , there is heaps of land to west of Geelong

                        Doesnt CottoOn have HQ there as well ?

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                        • macca
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2384

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                          Originally posted by The Doctor
                          I heard the Bell podcast about Henry. He doesn't share Longmuir's optimism.
                          All smoke and mirrors. They said the same about Lobb probably

                          Mundy retiring is a big loss and apary from Cerra and Serong , no one else has really stepped up this year

                          Henry maybe a smarter footballer if he can see all this and further into the future. jackson is on big bucks why cant ge try ???

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 45027

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            I am still curious why anyone thinks West Coast would be targeting individual oppo players on big $ deals when it seems 100% obvious that they need MORE draft picks not less draft picks.

                            I keep reading all of this English for a 'high' pick stuff and I simply don't understand why they would do it.

                            I know the clubs are far (far) smarter than me, but WHY would they do this? Is it purely because he grew up 4-hours south of Perth and there is a go-home factor?
                            There are 3 components to this and they are the player, financial position and draft currency.

                            - I think the WC interest in English is genuine. A local boy hitting his prime would be tempting for them and given they're losing one of the greats in Nic Nat it would be received by all in the West as a great move

                            - With a lot of their players likely to move on they would be in a great position to make a large financial offer and bring a good news story for their supporters and sponsors

                            - While they have the number one pick that is probably tradeable Tim English alone isn't going to get that deal done. They'll expect English and at least one but more likely our two first rounders coming to them. In the case of getting two first rounders we might get something coming back the other way.

                            While there has been some trades for early picks in recent years you normally have to pay overs to get them. The Horne-Francis one was huge and complicated and that was with North keen to move him out so they lost a bit of leverage.

                            I think we need to accept that trading English won't get us pick 1 without a lot more creativity involved.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • Rocket Science
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 4866

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                              Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                              Don't think I've ever seen a report like that before.
                              Really quite bizarre.

                              Fingers crossed we release something similar on Grundy ...

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                              DOGS REACH OUT TO DEES ON GRUNDY ...

                              The Western Bulldogs have made contact with Melbourne Demons to assure the club is not pursuing VFL big man Brodie Grundy.

                              The Herald Sun understands a senior official at the Bulldogs reached out to a colleague at Demonland to ease any fears the Dees had about a rumoured approach from the Dogs.

                              There were reports the Dogs were actively discussing Grundy but the club has denied it is in the midst of making a play for the $900,000 ruckman.

                              Grundy, 29, is contracted at the Demons for another FIVE seasons and played a forgettable hand in Casey's comfortable win over the Coburg Lions at Piranha Park last weekend amid much debate about his best position.

                              Grundy, who looked forlorn at full forward, gathered 12 possessions and a goal along with some personal encouragement from Demons' forward coach Greg Stafford who took time away from his busy weekend dog walking schedule.

                              Barring an unlikely reprieve the No. 18 pick in the 2012 draft will play his 2nd consecutive VFL match against the Williamstown Seagulls at Casey Fields on Sunday afternoon.
                              BORDERLINE FLYING

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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19109

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                                Ha gold.

                                Rather Bont's second hand reg grundys
                                BT COME BACK!​

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