2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

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  • EasternWest
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2009
    • 9988

    Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

    Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
    If he was not a father/son would we still be keen to keep him.
    I'm not overly keen to keep him fullstop.
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    • Axe Man
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 10976

      Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
      With Rhylee West I am not convinced at all.

      If he was not a father/son would we still be keen to keep him.

      For me I would let him go and get someone else on the list. I actually prefer the look of Ewan MacPherson in what I have seen at Footscray.
      West is contracted for another year so unless he demands a trade I think he will still be on the list in 2022.

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      • EasternWest
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2009
        • 9988

        Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

        Originally posted by Axe Man
        West is contracted for another year
        How can you possibly know this?
        "It's over. It's all over."

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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 10976

          Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

          Originally posted by EasternWest
          How can you possibly know this?
          My Aunties hairdresser knows Scott's chiropractor who is friends with Sam Power's dog walker who read it in the contracts thread.

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          • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 8882

            Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            My Aunties hairdresser knows Scott's chiropractor who is friends with Sam Power's dog walker who read it in the contracts thread.
            Aha I call BS... you had me right up to 'contracts thread'... as if we're to believe such a thing exists! We're not that gullible Axe Man!

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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 7706

              Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

              Originally posted by Axe Man
              My Aunties hairdresser knows Scott's chiropractor who is friends with Sam Power's dog walker who read it in the contracts thread.
              Is a "contracts thread" some sort of fabric/material that gives you powers to see the future? Akin to reading the tea leaves?

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              • EasternWest
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2009
                • 9988

                Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

                Originally posted by Axe Man
                chiropractor
                Come on man if you're just going to invent occupations how can we have a real conversation.

                (I apologise to any chiros on here, crack away my friends)
                "It's over. It's all over."

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                • SquirrelGrip
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1491

                  Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

                  Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                  I'd consider playing him as a defender in 2022. We aren't flushed with good lockdown types and West is pretty strong 1-v-1. His lack of aerial game (in that he isn't a jumper like Duryea) might be a bit of a concern.
                  The key part of being of being a defender in our team is having good foot skills. Dale, Williams, Daniel, Duryea are all so important because of this. There's probably one spot for an elite speed defender (formally JJ, now Richards). West is no one of these, nor a marking intercept defender.
                  "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                  • azabob
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15196

                    Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

                    Originally posted by Axe Man
                    West is contracted for another year so unless he demands a trade I think he will still be on the list in 2022.
                    But what’s his height?
                    More of an In Bruges guy?

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44214

                      Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      No one will notice anyway, they don't read reports.
                      He lost a significant amount of cred with his trade Dunkley thread last year.
                      I get the impression he might be working on the Penske file now.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        He lost a significant amount of cred with his trade Dunkley thread last year.
                        I get the impression he might be working on the Penske file now.
                        He’s not Penske material.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14862

                          Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

                          Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                          The key part of being of being a defender in our team is having good foot skills. Dale, Williams, Daniel, Duryea are all so important because of this. There's probably one spot for an elite speed defender (formally JJ, now Richards). West is no one of these, nor a marking intercept defender.
                          Scott would go back to defence before West comes into the side.
                          VDM as well.
                          Garcia has taken the 'tough nugget mid/forward' role off him too. West's path to senior AFL is now very limited, especially if VDM can stay on the paddock and McNeill can keep pushing a case in the ressies.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • divvydan
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 1502

                            Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

                            Some updated rules relating to list management for the upcoming off-season.

                            Any players in their third season as a Category A or B rookie will be eligible to spend another season as a rookie in 2022


                            CLUBS are set to retain the same list sizes for 2022 while rookies in their third season will be allowed to spend a fourth 'replacement year' on the list after the AFL passed a rule change ahead of the off-season.

                            Under AFL rules players had not been allowed to spend more than three straight years on the rookie list. However, clubs had been lobbying the League to give extra time to rookies who had been disrupted in their development by the past two AFL seasons by COVID-19.

                            It saw the AFL confirm to clubs on Wednesday that any player in their third season as a Category A or B rookie will be eligible to spend another season as a rookie in 2022 as a 'replacement' year.The players will not be required to be delisted and go through the draft process to be re-selected...
                            But the rule that allowed clubs to move primary-listed players to the rookie list between the first and second list lodgment periods to open up senior spots will not be permitted this off-season. They will, however, be able to shift players on the senior list to the rookie list in the time between the national and rookie drafts if the player is contracted for 2022.
                            Meanwhile, clubs have been told they will have to again select a minimum of three players at the NAB AFL Draft after last year only needing to take one because of list reductions. The three live picks can include promoted rookies (before or after the national draft), national draft picks and pre-season draft selections.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

                              Khamis & Sweet stay on as rookies is a nice little win.

                              Only really Bedendo & Butler to move down. Not sure I’d like tapping these kids for a demotion though. But it might be needed if spots to picks on Darcy is going to be an issue with total spots open and/or Power wanting more flexibility. (Knowing we could do it after) Still don’t really see the need, unless we really don’t like the rookie draft. My guess, no moves on this front.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • mjp
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7304

                                Re: 2021 Rolling List Management Discussion

                                Originally posted by Mofra
                                West's path to senior AFL is now very limited...
                                Really?

                                He just needs to be given a few games in a row and build some confidence with the selectors. He'll be fine.

                                Opportunities always come - players just aren't always in a position to take them. I'm sure young West is frustrated with his performances at AFL level...as he matures and becomes more consistent he'll be fine.
                                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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